I too heard Barnsdale was making the limbs. All I can say is the bow that is pictured on the site looks very nice. I heard too that Winners Choice is going to supply the strings for them. If the these two are both true and the price is 625 or less, wow.

Along with Hoyt, Mathews, Martin, PSE, etc.

In the long run it could only help make things better. On another note, I see Kodiak are using Binary cams on some of their bows, must have licensed it from Bowtech. I suspect we will see more Binary style cams in the very near future from other companies.

Time will be the great equalizer in this on going saga. In a season of emotion sometimes one's mouth makes a check one's butt can't cash.

If the bow is made of quality components, under strict specs, in a high performance package,at that price, it will be a winner; as long as a lawsuit doesn't prevent production. Time will tell....

Kodiak change there tune! Bowtech has the patents rights, if you was at the ATA show - then you would know! I don't think they want any legal problems!It was like ghost town in there booth on friday & saturdayat show ! Binary System is the prefect cam! No Timming , Big KT energy,Fast!!!!! but Bowtech Owns the Rights I'm sure they will protect all sides of copy cat cams! Bowtech is a big co. now!

Kevin posted some speeds from testing on AT.

I wanted to post the speeds of the above mentioned bow at different draw lengths.

E Force set @ 61.3 and arrow weight is 309 gr

Speed mod

29.5" 325 fps
29" 320 fps
28.5" 315 fps
28" 310 fps

EZ draw mod

29.5" 318 fps
29" 314 fps
28.5" 311 fps
28" 306 fps



E 500 speeds

33 5/8" A-A
7 1/8" brace

64.9 pound draw
326 gr arrow

Speed mod

30" 339 fps
29.5" 334 fps
29" 328 fps
28.5" 323 fps
28" 317 fps

EZ mod

30" 330 fps
29.5" 325 fps
29" 321 fps
28.5" 316 fps
28" 310 fps

E 500 @ 64.9 30" draw, 421 gr arrow shot 299 fps = #83.6 KE

I will post the additional draw length speeds ASAP. It's been a little hectic lately.

Kevin

"Kodiak change there tune! Bowtech has the patents rights, if you was at the ATA show - then you would know! I don't think they want any legal problems!It was like ghost town in there booth on friday & saturdayat show ! Binary System is the prefect cam! No Timming , Big KT energy,Fast!!!!! but Bowtech Owns the Rights I'm sure they will protect all sides of copy cat cams! Bowtech is a big co. now!"

Are you saying that Kodiak left the show in fear of a patent suit??

That's what it sounds like he's saying to me...

i know i haven't figured out what he was saying yet.

I was hoping one of you guys could translate that for me. I was with Ted from Kodiak for quite a while and didn't see any binary cams designs on his bows.

Hunter's Friend lists the Kodiak Kinetic series as having Binary cams. I know that doesn't make it so though.[&:] Going to Kodiak's website, they are described as Kinetic dual cams. Not a very good picture of the bow though.