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Old 12-14-2005 | 02:11 PM
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the peep sight on my bow keeps turning so I can't see through it. It started turning to the side, now its completely done a 180. Its the peep sight itself, not the kind with a peep sight with the rubber string. I am thinking about just cutting it off my bow string but wanted to see if there was anything I can do to first. I kind of like it because it helps me to have more of a precisian aiming point but if its just going to block my view and I have to look around it, then I should just remove it.





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Old 12-14-2005 | 02:28 PM
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The type of bow and all would be helpful, so I'm going to do some constrctive bashing here. Most factory bowstrings are very close to junk. They are not prestretched and will creep gradually over time causing peep rotation, drawlength increase and peak weight increase. Brace height gets shorter and A2A gets longer.Another thing you may notice is serving separation where the strin wraps around the module---another sign of an inferior string.As always I recommend getting a decent set of aftermarket strings and cables and your problem will be cured.

Without seeing the bow, I'd suggest putting some twists in the string. This will help make it stabilize and it may cure the problem. Of course you should respec the bow. You may need to twist the cable to keep the drawlength the same if it fits you well now. I've found many factory strings come with only a few twists in them. Then I order a Wnner's Choice or Prostring and notice that they have about 1 twist per inch of the string's length. I'd have to assume it works as I get zero peep rotation.

I will also caution you about something. If the peep turns precipitously and turns a lot you may have a string that is ready to break, usually under the serving but not always. I had this happen once and it got real ugly. The peep was turning a lot from shot to shot, all of a sudden it let go and I was holding a pile of junk in my left hand.

Anyway, do a search on some of the aftermarket string makers. I'm working with a guy right now that gets some pretty good reviews and the prices are reasonable. As of now I have not shot his strings but plan on getting a set to try them out. You might do the same. His name is Mark Mraz and his phone number is (828)627-2594. He's on this board and over on www.archerytalk.com. Maybe it's worth a try.
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Old 12-14-2005 | 03:13 PM
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well the bow if only about a year old and been shot less than I'd say 75 times. I hope it doesn't break. Its a PSE Nova. I've tried twisting it but it just goes back.
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Old 12-14-2005 | 03:39 PM
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mark? i thought it was john mraz LOL.

i think bg means the string needs to be taken off the cam below your center serving and have a twist or 2 put in it. this needs to be done with a bow press, and you will need to take it to the shop to have it done if you don't have one.

if you've only got 75 shots on it i'd say with the string that came on it, its normal. get about a total of 200 shots on it and then take it in to get it adjusted. hopefully by then it will be all settled down, and you won't have to mess with it again. but, everything bg said is right.
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Old 12-14-2005 | 07:24 PM
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The nova come's with a lower end string and is possibly stretching as you shoot it ,so just maybe this could be part of your problem. You can also take a couple strand's from both side's of your peep,and put them to the opposite side of the peep in the direction that you need the peep to rotate ,this might help some.If you need your peep to go to the left then take 2 strand's from the right side of your peep and move them behind your peep to the left side ,and then 2 strand's from the left side and move them across the front of the peep to your right side .Hopefully this help's .
If your looking to buy an high endset of string's and cable,s then contact John Mraz [Gibblet] ,I'll garauntee there the best set you'll ever buy anywhere at half the price .This is John's e-mail addy

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Old 12-14-2005 | 09:27 PM
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Gibby, I don't mean the string needs a twist or two. If it's as most come from the factory it needs about 35 twists in it to make it work better. And I can state for a fact that it'll still go out of whack agin because it isn't prestretched. There are many bow companies that put what I'll just call generic strings on their bows. PSE is one of them.

And as I said before, putting this many twists in a string is going to shorten the draw. Probably need to twist the cable also to maintain the present drawlength. Then there still can be the issue of moving strands around to make due. That's why I will spend the extra money and get Winner's Choice.

Yeh guys, it is John Mraz. Don't know where I got the Mark from. Sorry about that. Senior moment.
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Old 12-14-2005 | 09:47 PM
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Bg,although prestretching is good,that really isn't the big secret to quality string building.Serving correctly is the secret.Making sure the serving is served in the same direction of the twist in the string and very tight will keep a peep from rotating more than just prestretching.Prestretching along with proper serving and now you have a string that just won't hardlymove untill it breaks.[]


I had a d-75 string made for a single cam bowthat wasn't prestretched but was put on a shooting machine for 3 days after it was built and I don't think I ever had to move the peep.I have had a few others that were made out of various materials,all high quality, that were not stretched on the machine that needed a very minor adjustment after about 30 shots.But never needed to be moved again.


utmstudent will benefit from somehigh quality strings but they would cost as much as the bow is probably worth[&:].Twisting the string like you stated may help but the string definately needs some shots to help settle the serving.After that if the peep is still rotating, a d-loop might help but it may neccisary to get a tube style peep.[:'(]




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Old 12-14-2005 | 10:01 PM
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i got that he was twisting it with his fingers and it wouldn't stay put. oh lord wouldn't that be nice if that was all it took to get them in the right position. now if someone could build a string where you could install it and stick your peep in at the same time, and then just point your peep in the right direction, regardless of where it was in thetwist,and it would stay that way, they'd make a mint.
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Old 12-14-2005 | 10:39 PM
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Listen to Gibblet he knows what he is talking about, plus one heck of a string maker.. I've seen his work.. Like Ausy-guy said, it's a work of art...
Gibblet I am goin to have to have some kick backs if I keep pushing your work .
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Old 12-14-2005 | 10:48 PM
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UTM, one thing I forgot to say... If you do cut the peep off, be careful not to cut your string, or damage it. I promise if you break a string at a full draw you will remember that sound for the rest of your life.
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