I currentl;y have a Mathews Switchback I got in March probably had 1000 to 1500 shots through it. shhooting at 70 lbs thru WB

My lower cable is starting to fray badly to the point where I am buying a new one. Also thinking about buying a new String as well.
I hope this is all pretty normal where and tear. Love to know if I am wrong. Secondly my upper string supppessor is has a grove worn in it, right of the center of the where the string would rest. I had not noticed it until I took the boiw in to have the cable replaced.

What kind of problem do I have with my bow?

THANKS

Hi there, Call or email Mathews. They are pretty good at getting things right. Also check for anything that your cable can rub on.

I bet your cable is fraying right where it makes that sharp turn on the cam when you come to full draw????? Not much you can do about it. Being such a short ata bow the cable makes a sharp turn to get to the cable slide and back to the idler. The cable rubs on the outside of the string grooves and wears very fast.

I had a Parker phoenix 32 which has almost an identicle cam and it did the exact same thing. What I did was serve that part of the cable with some thin and slick super fishing line, I think it was Stren super braid in 20 lbs. It seemed to help quite a bit.

Your string supressors are going to wear like that. Nothing you can do about that other than not shoot your bow. Your local Mathews dealer should have those supressors for you for less than $10. Just make sure that you get one with a "C" on it and one with an "I" on it. One os for the cam limb and one is for the idler limb.

Personally I would take them off and just use whiskers or leeches. Those supressors don't do all that much to dampen string vibration any way. Thay are way too close to the point where the string meets the cam/ idler to do much good. IMHO they are just something to add to the cost of the bow that offer little to the consumer.

Bigbulls, take a look at this picture and tell me that the string suppressors don't don't much!

This is a most interesting picture! Hope it shows!

Howler While that is a neat pic it means absolutely nothing regarding the ability of the supressors to deaden vibration.

The Mathews supressors are way too close to the ends of the string (where they make contact with the cam and wheel) to be very effective. A vibration deadening device needs to be much farther out on the string where it would absorbe the maximim amount of vibration as quickly as possible to be as effective as possible.

Pluck a guitar string in the center of its length and then lightly touch the string 1" from both ends and then do it again but lightly touch the string 6 inches from both ends. You will instantly see a difference in the vibration deadening abilities of where your finger is placed.

Well I don't know that your comparison is real comparible. A guitar string is metal, is tighter and has much higher, faster, vibrations. BUT I see your point. BUT I do know that I don't have any thing on my string on Legacy, and don't plan on putting any thing on it, and there is very little "twang" from my bow. I haven't shot it with out the suppressors, BUT I beleive that a blind person would be able to tell the difference between with them and without them.
Don't ya think?
If I add anything else to my bow, it will be the STS! But as it is, it is queiter than my MQ1 with string leechesand limb savers on it!

I am not trying to say that they don't do anything at all to deaden vibration just that for what they cost in R&D, machining, installation, etc... that a string leech is a whole heck of a lot cheaper and is far more effective.

They do work to some extent but the cost is certainly not justifiable when you look at the actual performance returns you get from them.

IMHO they are another marketing scheme. And I am not bashing Mathews. There are other bow companies that use similar products on their bows.

according to the local pro shop, less than $5 a piece. So about double the cost of the sims string leech, but probably last longer than the leech on a bow that is in spec.
I would like to see a simalar picture of a bow being shot without the suppressors. I wonder how much further the arrow would stay on, how muchcloser the string would come to the riser.
At least we all can now see why "string slap" on the wrist happens! There is a whole lot of energy being released there!!

I'm not only considering the cost of the rubber inserts but the cost of the research and developement of the design, the aditional man hours that it takes to install them on each and every limb, the aluminum used, machining that aluminum and the additional time, the screws and nuts, additional time to drill the holes in the limbs, additional space used for storage of the parts, etc... etc... None of these things cost a company very much as a single item but when you start adding all of them up the cost of production rises, the manufacturer has to make a profit and the consumer ends up with the bill for it.

You got that right!!!!!!!!!!

That is a cool pic.

If you have acess to a press then you can do a little test. Pluck the string about 6 - 8 inches back without the supressors installed on the bow nor any in the string. Then do the same thing with the supressors only and then again with leeches only and then again with both.

I can also do this at the shop tomorow and see what happens. I am willing to bet that the supressors only will be the least effective at silencing a bow string.

But your test is only going to show what they are doing at rest. or what they aren't doing at rest. I think when they do the most is when the string has been released and then how much or how many times would the string try to bounce back and forth before coming to rest. That's what I'd guess the suppressor help the most, at stopping the string from bouncing back and forth!
So just plucking the string with and without suppressors and then with and without leaches won't show me much because the although the string does rest on the suppressor, the string is in heavy contact, or has more pressure on them while in motion! So it seems to me that the suppressors job is to bring the string back to rest quicker!
I can guess what your test will show!!