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questions_14 06-05-2005 11:23 PM

Whisker Biscuit
 
Hey

Are the 05 WB Deluxe able to be shot using fingers? or do you need a release aid to successfully use this rest?

Cheers

Dairy King 06-05-2005 11:35 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
A simple search into google using the terms " whisker biscuit fingers " and I came up with this.....http://www.carolinaarcheryprod.com/techtips.html second question down.

questions_14 06-06-2005 05:35 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
Cheers Mate

Greatly appreciated, now i can go about buying one of these rests unless someone out there has some other recommendations?

Dairy King 06-06-2005 07:52 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
What do you do? 3-d, hunting, or what? For hunting, I dont think there is a better rest out there.

questions_14 06-06-2005 08:22 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
99% of the time hunting and the other 1% target, but thats just to tune my bow.

There's something about hunting and i just cant get anough of it, especially when theres plenty of game around. While i dont mind target, it just gets a bit boring for me.

Now all ive got to do is purchase the rest!

Dairy King 06-06-2005 08:29 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
You will not be disappointed.

Dairy King 06-06-2005 08:30 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
Oh and by the way....Make sure you get the B2 Deluxe. Its more expensive, but to me, its worth the money. It has alot more adjustments.

throwingStarr 06-07-2005 01:42 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
The Whisker Biscuit is a very good rest. i've been shooting with one for the past few months at targets in the yard and at a few indoor Dart systems, i'm definitely going to use one this season to hunt with.

mainehunt 06-07-2005 07:11 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
questions_14,

While there are those out there that like the WB for hunting, there are several out there that will never use one again.

I suggest listening to someone draw their arrow across one, they are sometimes loud and I've seen videos of deer spooking when they hear the arrow draw from 35 yards away.

Just my 2 cents,
Kev

TerryM 06-07-2005 07:33 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 

they are sometimes loud and I've seen videos of deer spooking when they hear the arrow draw from 35 yards away.
That is the one and only reason I sold mine and replaced it with an APA Twister Safari. I now have no noise at all and a full containment dropaway. I loved the Bisquit, just could not live with the noise on drawback. Tons of hunters use them with great success, but I could not get past that "what if" feeling.

Dairy King 06-07-2005 08:43 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I use Aluminum xx78 Super Slams in 2117. I literally just drew my bow back to see what I could hear. I heard a very quiet noise. A deer would NOT be able to hear this 35 yards away, heck, I would be willing to bet he wouldn't hear it if he was under my stand on the stillest of mornings while he was looking at me. A deer's ears are no better than a humans. What you can hear at 30 yards, is the same thing he can here at 30 yards.

mainehunt 06-07-2005 09:07 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I disagree Dairy, I believe their hearing is much better than humans. The videos I've seen where the deer heard the arrow draw were sponsered by whisker biscuit. I know one guy here in Maine that used to get free arrow rests from them, but now he won't even use one because of the noise they make.

If it works for you, then I wish you good hunting.

Dairy King 06-07-2005 09:13 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
Maybe I'm wrong, I dont know. But, I do remember reading in, I think, Outdoor Life that deer's hearing is no better than a humans. I dont know, Im just repeating what I read.

TerryM 06-07-2005 10:27 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 

A deer's ears are no better than a humans.
You are kidding right! If nothing else compare the size of a deer's ears to yours ( hopefully the deer has bigger ones, sorry couldn't resist that). A deer has hearing many times as powerful as a human's. That and thier smell is basically what keps them alive. Any extra noise is a big problem when hunting big game. Deer are very vocal animals who bleet, grunt, blow etc. Hearing is crucial.

manboy 06-07-2005 10:42 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
i only us the biscuit, as for game having better hearing than us, that is true! but i know it didn't help the elk i shot last year at 32 yards! shot right though her, all she did was spin around and look where the shot came from! i didn't move and she never saw me!

if an elk didn't hear it than a deer will not, oh and i have shot 3 deer with it. one as close as 15 yards. and no spoked deer in 4 years!
i will never hunt with a another rest!

.02 for you

IL Rancher 06-07-2005 11:34 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I find it interesting that someone tossed a bisket for an APA because of noise becuase I know several guys who have gone the exact opposite way. I have both a normal shoot through APA and a Bisket. The bisket is much quieter than the APA but most of this has to do with what arrow I am shooting that day. The Blackhawk arrows I have are loud with any rest, something about the finish on them while the Nitro Stingers are quiet in any rest I pull back on. Put a little silicon on your arrow, won't matter what rest you are using for the most part...

Chuck7 06-07-2005 01:58 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I've been reading all the replys. I'm almost convinced in buying a Biscuit myself. What is the benefit over the Cobra that I already have on my bow? And can I get one to fit my standard riser?
Thanks Chuck

jsasker 06-07-2005 02:49 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I've been shooting the wb for a couple years and the only time noise was a factor was when my buddy bought the small wb and the thing was dragging the length of the arrow when he would draw--i had another wb with the large hole,we switched,no more noise on the draw!He was happy about that and i was just happy i could help him out.:)So what size are you shooting?I think they could do away with the smaller size.jmho.

TerryM 06-07-2005 05:07 PM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 

The bisket is much quieter than the APA but most of this has to do with what arrow I am shooting that day
Actually the APA twister only contacts the arrow for about 2 inches of the draw and shoot cycle, the bisquit contacts the arrow the entire draw and release, so its virtually impossible it could be silent. When the felt tape is used there is absolutely no sound whatsoever from a twister. My bisquit always made noise and I had both size inserts to play with. Not knocking the bisquit, I loved the thing, it tuned easily and was foolproof. But it makes noise even the manufacturer says so on thier website.

Straightarrow 06-08-2005 04:56 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 

The videos I've seen where the deer heard the arrow draw were sponsered by whisker biscuit.
When a deer reacts to the drawing of a bow, we don't know if they heard it, or if they saw it. Their eyes are incredible at seeing movement and with eyes on the side of their head, they pratically have a 300 degree field of vision. Sometimes, we make assumptions about why they react. In fact, it could be coincidence that human scent arrived at their nose at precisely that moment. Or, even that something else attracted their attention and they looked in the bowhunter's direction.

All I can say, is that my WB makes very little noise when I'm drawing. It's of absolutely no concern to me. I can barely hear it, and I'm only 2 feet away! I've also drawn on quite a few deer that were inside of 10 yards while using a WB and they had no reaction. I've heard that on certain arrow brands, it makes more noise and I've been told they become a bit quieter after you've shot them for awhile - not something I've noticed but mine doesn't make any noise to speak of anyway.

BOWFANATIC 06-09-2005 01:10 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 

I've also drawn on quite a few deer that were inside of 10 yards while using a WB and they had no reaction.
You beat me to the punch. I've done the same thing probably a half dozen times in the last three years with no problems.

It's no different than any rest when noise is concerned. Certain precautions should be taken beforehand to get the quietest draw possible.
Make sure you have the correct biscuit size for your arrows. A larger diameter carbon arrow will work better with a aluminum biscuit.
Gloss finished carbons are the quietest. Non finished arrows like Goldtip or Carbon Express are the noisiest , but spraying them with silicone or rubbing them down with a thin layer of bow string wax will solve the problem.

nodog 06-09-2005 05:07 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
I've used one in the past and most likely won't again. Can't get over the amount of contact and your limited to the kind of shaft you can build. I don't have problems keeping the shaft on the rest and that as far as I can see is the biscuts only plus.

JOE PA 06-09-2005 06:44 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
First of all, I don't think I'm biased for or against the Biscuit. I had a few on different bows with generally positive results, but I'm currently not using one. This issue of noise on the draw is allmost completely dependant on the finish of the arrow being used. For a while, I shot Carbon Express camo arrows, and was pleased enough to buy an extra half dozen. Thought I was set, but the new arrows had a different camo, and were very noisy when drawn through the Biscuit. On the other hand, arrows with a slick outer finish like ICS Hunters, or the older Beman pultruded arrows make virtually no noise at all. They are just as quiet as moleskin to my ears, and I seem to be the only one on the internet that can hear string slap with the STS![8D] A doe I shot 2 years ago was on alert due to a squirrel moving nearby. I actually had to attempt to draw 3 times, getting caught at half draw twice. She didn't react to the noise at all, and she was within 15 yards at one point.

truk 06-09-2005 07:03 AM

RE: Whisker Biscuit
 
well my wb is quiet, i killed 3 deer under 20 yards in 2004, not one of them spooked at the "sound" of my arrow being drawn through the wb.
If your wb is noisy you can trim it .


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