Beetle versus boil and backing options
#1
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Caledonia, NY
Posts: 773
Beetle versus boil and backing options
Hi all,
I've been lucky enough to shoot a small 11 point buck, and I've always wanted a Euro mount.
I spoke with one Taxi, who has a great reputation, and has won awards. She quoted me $75 for a Euro via boiling and chemicals. Another gentleman quoted me $40 with beetle use, and chemicals if need be. He's in a reputable sportsman's shop in the area, and appears to do good work (his examples anyway).
I have two questions.
1. What are thepro/con listsof beetle cleaning Vs. Boiling? I understand bones may get brittle during boiling.
2. I'm looking for places to view possible backings. I'd like to have a nice-finish wood that has the skull sitting out away from the wall, maybe with a photo incorporated. If you can send me to some Web sites I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
I've been lucky enough to shoot a small 11 point buck, and I've always wanted a Euro mount.
I spoke with one Taxi, who has a great reputation, and has won awards. She quoted me $75 for a Euro via boiling and chemicals. Another gentleman quoted me $40 with beetle use, and chemicals if need be. He's in a reputable sportsman's shop in the area, and appears to do good work (his examples anyway).
I have two questions.
1. What are thepro/con listsof beetle cleaning Vs. Boiling? I understand bones may get brittle during boiling.
2. I'm looking for places to view possible backings. I'd like to have a nice-finish wood that has the skull sitting out away from the wall, maybe with a photo incorporated. If you can send me to some Web sites I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
#2
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
A buddy of minetold me that heburys the head in the ground leaving the antlers stick up and covers them with a rubbermaid container. He lets them sit for several months, then digs it back up and the skull it cleaned off. I don't know how effective this method is, but it sounds a lot cheaper.
#3
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Caledonia, NY
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RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
ORIGINAL: firegoon
A buddy of minetold me that heburys the head in the ground leaving the antlers stick up and covers them with a rubbermaid container. He lets them sit for several months, then digs it back up and the skull it cleaned off. I don't know how effective this method is, but it sounds a lot cheaper.
A buddy of minetold me that heburys the head in the ground leaving the antlers stick up and covers them with a rubbermaid container. He lets them sit for several months, then digs it back up and the skull it cleaned off. I don't know how effective this method is, but it sounds a lot cheaper.
I'm sure that method works well, but I'd just assume take it to some place, because the ground gets frozen here pretty soon, and 100" of snow have to come before next spring
#4
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
Using beetles are the very best way to clean a skull. Compared to boiling it much better for the skull. If it's cheaper then I'd definately choose the "beetle" option.
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RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
Boiling runs the risk of leaving it too long and ruining the skull, I se both I boil a little bit to loosen the meat then I let the meat dry for a day or so and then I let the beetles pick it clean.
#6
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
Beetles are the best way to clean a skull. The beatles are only interested in the meat and won't hurt the skull. Boiling can hurt the skull if they boil too long. I would either choose to have the 'beetle person' do it, or boil it your self, which is cheaper yet.
#7
Spike
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RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
Phade,
I just did an 8 point european skull mount for my son last night... I boiled it for about an hour and a half, removing it approximately every 15 minutes and scaping loose meat off. I used a "stock pot" (big pan) and 4 scopes of borax and 1 scope of oxy clean. I mixed the borax and oxy clean in warm water in a 1 gallon milk container and then added it to the pan and started to "cook". I then rinsed the skull off with cold water and let dry over night. The mount came out great, very tight and very white... I think the oxy clean worked to cut the grease and as a whiting agent... I don't think I'll even have to use peroxide...
I just did an 8 point european skull mount for my son last night... I boiled it for about an hour and a half, removing it approximately every 15 minutes and scaping loose meat off. I used a "stock pot" (big pan) and 4 scopes of borax and 1 scope of oxy clean. I mixed the borax and oxy clean in warm water in a 1 gallon milk container and then added it to the pan and started to "cook". I then rinsed the skull off with cold water and let dry over night. The mount came out great, very tight and very white... I think the oxy clean worked to cut the grease and as a whiting agent... I don't think I'll even have to use peroxide...
#8
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
The beetles are the way to go, I use to have them and did a lot of euros for people, and they do a much better job than the boiling. If the beetle guy is a reputable person, take it to him, they do a real nice job. A little tip, ask him if he freezes the skull after the beetles are done, the larvae of the beetle are very small, and can hid in very small hoes in the skull, and you dont want them getting on any of your other mounts at home. If you want to be sure for yourself, put it in the freezer when you get home for a few days, it will kill any beetles or larvae if he didnt already do it. Post a pic of it when its done, they look nice.
#9
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
I boiled the skull plate of my first buck (4 pointer) last weekend in a mix of water and dish soap so i could cut all the meat/hair off easier, it worked great for gettin all the gunk off, but now my antlers are lighter than they were when i shot him. did i do something wrong, and is there anything i can do to get the color back?
#10
RE: Beetle versus boil and backing options
Not much you can do about the light antlers, except get some wood stain and put light coats on it. Next time, keep the antlers out of the water, they aren't supposed to get boiled.