Clarification on the Casey x Lily litter
12-21-2004 | 09:11 AM
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Clarification on the Casey x Lily litter
Since there are a few folks here that are getting in line for a Casey x Lily pup, I thought I should clarify some 'points' (pun intended) 
Casey is a PL from a long line of PLs. Lily does show a natural point, but she IS NOT from pointing ancestors. In fact, she only has one PL in her pedigree (great grandfather). If the "odds" work out, about 75% of the pups should point, but some probably won't.
These pups ARE NOT being sold as "Pointing Labradors", they are being sold as Labrador Retrievers from parents that point. Once we see how this litter turns out, we will be able to see if enough of them point and that if a repeat breeding would produce pups that can be "guaranteed to point". Currently if you want a PL pup that is guaranteed to point, it will cost about $1000 -- and if anyone is interested, contact me and can put you in touch with some top notch PL Breeders.
I will be doing some 'puppy pointing' testing when the pups are 5 weeks and 6 weeks of age in order to see which ones are likely to point and which ones might not. Just because a pup might not point when it's young, doesn't necessarily mean that they won't point at a later age (with proper bird introduction). In fact, one of the TOP PLs in existance (a dog named Otter) came from non-pointing ancestors and didn't start pointing until he was 6 months old --- probably with proper bird introduction, he would have exhibited point at a younger age, but nobody knows.
FOR SURE, what you need to do BEFORE you get a pup that will probably point, is to get the book, "The Pointing Labrador", by Paul and Julie Knutson. This is the 'Bible' that most all of us PL guys use for the "pointer portion" of training. For the "retriever portion" of training, the book, "Smartwork for Retrievers", by Evan Graham, or "10 Minute Retriever", by John and Amy Dahl are the best two around.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if done correctly, that training a PL takes time and dedication. You are not only going to be training a dog in the aspects of being a good Retriever, but you are also going to be training in the aspects of Pointing. It is a fine line. If you can't dedicate enough time (at least an hour or two hours a day -- for at least 5 days a week), I wouldn't recommend that you get a PL.
Casey is a PL from a long line of PLs. Lily does show a natural point, but she IS NOT from pointing ancestors. In fact, she only has one PL in her pedigree (great grandfather). If the "odds" work out, about 75% of the pups should point, but some probably won't.
These pups ARE NOT being sold as "Pointing Labradors", they are being sold as Labrador Retrievers from parents that point. Once we see how this litter turns out, we will be able to see if enough of them point and that if a repeat breeding would produce pups that can be "guaranteed to point". Currently if you want a PL pup that is guaranteed to point, it will cost about $1000 -- and if anyone is interested, contact me and can put you in touch with some top notch PL Breeders.
I will be doing some 'puppy pointing' testing when the pups are 5 weeks and 6 weeks of age in order to see which ones are likely to point and which ones might not. Just because a pup might not point when it's young, doesn't necessarily mean that they won't point at a later age (with proper bird introduction). In fact, one of the TOP PLs in existance (a dog named Otter) came from non-pointing ancestors and didn't start pointing until he was 6 months old --- probably with proper bird introduction, he would have exhibited point at a younger age, but nobody knows.
FOR SURE, what you need to do BEFORE you get a pup that will probably point, is to get the book, "The Pointing Labrador", by Paul and Julie Knutson. This is the 'Bible' that most all of us PL guys use for the "pointer portion" of training. For the "retriever portion" of training, the book, "Smartwork for Retrievers", by Evan Graham, or "10 Minute Retriever", by John and Amy Dahl are the best two around.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if done correctly, that training a PL takes time and dedication. You are not only going to be training a dog in the aspects of being a good Retriever, but you are also going to be training in the aspects of Pointing. It is a fine line. If you can't dedicate enough time (at least an hour or two hours a day -- for at least 5 days a week), I wouldn't recommend that you get a PL.
