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Jackies768 07-10-2007 05:59 PM

my dog bit my daughter...
 
Ok, its jackie again with my puppie Roxie. I have a problem and i need some advise. My pup was playing outside for a while yesterday and i brought her in and gave her some water. She then played with my 1 yr. old daughter Amber. Now here's the kicker, Roxie layed down on my air vent on the floor of the kitchen too cool off i guess (she always lays there) and i gave her a pig ear to chew on. My daughter went up to Roxie and went to pet her and Roxie snarled like i have never heard her do before (it was mean and nasty) and bit Ambers hand. Roxie broke skin and bruised her hand. Other than that incident she is a good puppy, already house broken at 10 wks, responds to "come" and "sit" ... I am not sure if i need to give her back to the breeder, send her to the pound (which i dont want), sell her to someone else,or keep her and see if she does this again. And ifshe does it again I dont want it to be at the expense of my daughter. Please help!!! Thankyou!

Doegirl75 07-10-2007 06:34 PM

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You can't take chances, not with a small child. I would find the dog a home with no small children. You KNOW your daughter will try that again. Don't tempt fate. Sorry.:(

duckdog132 07-10-2007 06:48 PM

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that dog would have had a major additude adjustment if it was at my house and then if it was lucky; it might get another home maybe. i absolutly do not put up with that stuff. my kids are THE most important thing in the world to me. a good dog can be found every day.

crazylady 07-10-2007 07:03 PM

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I wouldn't chance it with a child. They put their faces in dogs faces all the time. You don't want it to bite your daughter in the face. One of our labs has growled at our son but she just growls and walks away. She gets attitude adjustment when she growls. She also has a injuried shoulder that I think she is afraid of him hurting. I just wouldn't take the chance.

AlaskaMagnum 07-10-2007 09:38 PM

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It is funny how times have changed. Years ago, it was understood that a dog should never be touched while it was eating. However, litigation and times have changed. Hell, the ASPCA automatically euthanizes dogs that show food aggression. I would not necessarily call this a "bad" dog per se, in fact, I like a dog with a little attitude. In today's society though, you need to realize that a pup like this could certainly be a liablity, both letigiously and in your personal family life.

It is really up to you. The dog is what it is. If you can handle such a dog AND keep your kids and neighbors safe, keep the pup. If you can't, send her back to the breeder and get another prospect.

For the record, one of my dogs is territorial aggressive (not food or dog aggressive though). A real sweet dog on the leash, but defends the home, yard, and car with vehemence. I understand this, in some ways apprecaite it, but I understand what situations have the potential to go bad, and make sure I am in control of them. Having a dog like this requires more vigillence on my part, and I know it, and accept it. I also understand that if someone other than a burglar ever gets bitten in my home or car, I AM RESPONSIBLE and will pay the price.

Its up to you and what you can handle.

bryant1 07-11-2007 08:08 AM

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I also have worried about this situation, as I have a one year
old daughter. She is seldomly around my three hunting dogs now, but will be during deer hunting season. They aren't aggressive, but I still worry because all it takes is one time to seriously hurt a small child. I would consider giving the dog to a family without small children, if I were in your position.

Doc E 07-11-2007 08:09 AM

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At 10 weeks of age, the pup was doing exactly what it would do if it was still with the rest of the litter. It was normal behavior. What would have happened in the "pack" is that the other pup would have either backed off or would have bit the other pup back. Obviously your little daughter is too young to exert any dominance (alpha)behavior. So from now on, the daughter must be kept away from the pup when it has a food object. Adult humans need to mess with the pup when it has a food object, and if the pup is aggressive/protective at that time, the human adult should make the proper correction.
It wasn't the 10 week old pup's fault. It was just being a 10 week old pup. It needs to "learn it's place", but a one year old human isn't capable of doing so.


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Jackies768 07-11-2007 09:15 AM

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Thankyou. When i told my husband he came home from work furious! He wanted to shoot the dog but obviously didnt. I wanted to get rid of the dog but she is a very good dog! Now that it has happened two days ago i dont think my husband would allow me to get rid of her but if it happens again the dog is gone, no matter how good she is or how attatched we are to her! I took away the pig ears and i dont give Roxie them amymore. I let the baby and the pup play together yesterday and there wasnt any incidents. The pup did snap at my daughters face while they were playing but i dont think she meant it. Oh, and when Roxie bit Amber the other day I smacked the pups noseandput her in her cage after being outside fro a while. I was so mad. She had an attidue adjustment alright!!! And if this happens again, next time im throwing her right outside until I get someone to take her! I told my husband that Amber comes first!! He was trying to make excuses for the pup because he wants to keep her to go hunting with. I got upset at that because there are plenty of pups out there that are great hunting dogs and that are good with kids. Plus we could wait until Amber can fight back to get another one! He doesnt need one right now.

KevinS 07-11-2007 10:05 AM

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At 10 weeks the puppy doesn't know any better. Instead of smacking it around why don't you try some positive training techniques. Negative reinforcement like that will just make the puppy more aggresive.

txhunt 07-11-2007 11:01 AM

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Like a 2 year old child the “that’s mine” attitude is very much alive in a puppy. I doubt if you treat your daughter after misbehaving or maybe even biting a playmate with the same angry response that you corrected your puppy with. I have 2 young children and I have a Lab that is almost 1 year old and still very much a puppy. Children have to be trained to respect others that includes pets and the dog must learn to respect the position it holds in the family “Pack”. There are many ways to do this and it should be easy to find someone to suggest some training techniques to help with this problem. My kids help me feed and train the dog. This puts them above the dog in the “pack” pecking order.

Mite 07-11-2007 02:46 PM

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My kids help me feed and train the dog


This is exactly what I would do only let your daughter feed the pup. Shows that she is the provider. Hold the pup back; let her put the food bowl down. Also, I would never feed pup treats that take awhile to chew on when the daughter is around. Around nap time, during pre-shool in a few years would be okay. In the meantime, use treats that the dog can eat immediately.

Our goldie doesn't like our nephew handling her. She would growl if he tried turning her over on her back. But throughout the years, she been fed treats - sometimes not intentional - by his hand so she isprotective of him even within the 'pack'. She would never bite but place herself between him and anything that threatened.

springerDIVA 07-11-2007 06:48 PM

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#1 Roxie is a puppy. #2 your daughter and the puppy are "mentally" about the same age. YOU REALLY NEED TO WATCH THIS BEHAVIOR WITH OTHER THINGS. When she is fed you need to be able to put your hand in her bowl, move her food, touch her and let her know you're alpha first. If you can't do this then there's no point putting your child back in the line of fire. Roxie needs rules &limitations, if you can't provide them consistently then she needs to go to a new home with an experienced trainer. Thatbehavior isn't allowed inthe pack by the leaders.

Have you contacted the breeder?

Please tell me you are crate training this puppy.

Next vet appointment I would ask them to do a temperment testing/evaluation or ask a local trainer or reputable breeder (of any breed) or obedience trainer.

At10 wks grab her by the scruff her by the neck and give her a bit of a shake. This is what her dam did when she was with the litter. It's part of establishing the alpha role (you & husband), beta role would be your child (still a leader) and above the dog, who should be in a submissive stage to the child. This is VERY HARD TO ATTAIN with a small child in the home.

I would start her in group obedience classes as soon as possible should you decide to keep her. Once you and hubby get her foundations a bit more solid then teach the child how to handle the dog.

Just like when when handling a weapontreat it like it's loaded until you prove it's safe. Soteach the childthat a dog has teeth and anything closer to it's size he/she sees as equal or competition.

The AKC has a link on their site about kids and dog safety. Teaching kids how to approach dogs, etc.

Good dogs bite too. They start out with small episodes like this as puppies and if not properly trained and handled they can become aggressive.

Your child is more important than the puppy and you don't want her to have a fear of dogs as she gets older.

Phil from Maine 07-11-2007 07:17 PM

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At 10 weeks of age, the pup was doing exactly what it would do if it was still with the rest of the litter. It was normal behavior.
Exactly the wayI see it! Puppies are called puppies for a reason.. I like to break the pup from biting at me first, andI would use a real bone to do it. I would set the bone down so the puppy could get it and reach down to see what the pup does. If she growls I would take it away. Then try it again a little later on. After a while your pup would reconize that not growling it would get to keep the bone. ThenI would slowly get your daughter around her when feeding provided you or another adult is there with her. After yopur pup gets older it will understand better but, by keeping at it she will learn not to bite..

duckdog132 07-11-2007 09:17 PM

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i guess i should have read the whole post better and seen how young this pup was. i agree that at this stage this pup can be changed but you cant let it go one any more!!!

crazylady 07-12-2007 07:27 PM

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I always feed my dogs out of my hand for the first few months. Now that I have a son I have him feed the dogs out of his hand with my supervisen. From day one they know that they are a dog and it gets things from me. My son can take anything out of my dogs mouth without them caring. Even my one lab that has growled you can take things away anytime. I would make you dog sit before you feed it or before it gets any treat or toy. You need to establish dominance with the dog. You don't need to be physical. While all three of our dogs I roll them over and let my son stand over them while they are on their back. A dog on it's back is the most submissive stance for a dog. With your daughter standing over it the dog realizes that she is more dominant than her. Just my 2 cents.

Cara 07-14-2007 07:24 AM

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The only thing you'll teach a puppy by 'throwing' it into its kennel is that the kennel is associated with punishment and is not a safe place, which goes against the den theorythat crate training is based on. The puppy should not have bitten, but equally the puppy deserves to have its own quiet, safe place to go to when it doesn't want to be bothered.

springerDIVA 07-14-2007 02:51 PM

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Yes the kennel/cratemust always bea safe place. The door should be left open when the dog is not in the crate. You'll find that when they get tired they learn to go in on their own. You don't want to develope the problem of a dog hating to get in her crate, especially when she's going to use it to travel. Home goes with her.

We always leave the crate doors open when they're not in there. Our senior citizen will get in her crate when she's tired.The crates in the truck are always open as well when not occupied.

Dogs really don't get the concept of time out. They can't tell time (except when it's dinner time) or the gun cases & vest & boots & whistlesare out.

We don't have kids but we borrow them constantly to help us train our dogs. They need to know how to interact with each other. Always supervised and usually on leash or handler between dog and child.
Find a local trainer to work with you. She sounds like she could be a bit of an alpha female.


Jackies768 07-15-2007 08:09 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
i shouldnt have said i smacked the pup around and threw her in her cage because thats not really what happened.(and i never actually said that i smaked her around.)i was just angry at the time of the post. i said "NO" and thensmacked her nose (not hard) and put her outside! after she was outside for about half an hour i brought her back in and she went into the kitchen got a drink of water and went into her crate and slept. there is a hole that a ground hog made that roxie plays in all the time if i let her out back. thats why she is tired when she comes in. i have to put lattice up to cover it (its under my deck).


but anyway, yes she is crate trained. shes a good dog i just cant give her the pig ears anymore or i have to train her not to growl when she has them (which i can do). she gets very small dog treats when im training her. she knows how to sit, stay, and speak already. she is also house trained. i give her positive feedback all the time when she does good things! the only negative feed i give her is when she bit my baby and peed or pooped in the house. i am very good to my puppy. she follows every footstep i take and we love each other.

i think her biting my daughter was just an accident because Roxie was in her zone after chewing on the ear for so long and didnt realize what she did. i was angry because she hurt my daughter but now that i look back on it i know she didnt mean it. i have always fed her in the kitchen with the gate up so amber cant go in there. and Roxies crate is always open for her to roam in and out of, which she does. amber and Roxie just happened to be in the same room while roxie was chewing on the ear because i was making dinner and had to watch the both of them. i gave roxie the pig ear not knowing how she would react if amber touched her, being that i only had the pup for three weeks. and that was my fault, i shouldve pu the dog in her crate. but we all live and learn and that is that. everything has been fine since then.

SWOSUMike 07-18-2007 08:49 PM

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I would normally not tolerate that, but 10 weeks, the pup is treating your daughter like a littermate and would probably do the same with you at this point.

My male dog is very good natured but he was bent on being an alpha as a pup. I fixed it. Basically, I bit him back. I would grab him by the scruff of the neck and growl at him and even shake some. I had to be a little rough. I also would spray a mixture of 3 parts water to one part vinegar at his nose (not his eyes). Now he's one of the nicest dogs I know. A great dog and quite trustworthy. Bite your dog back now and you won't have to later. If the pup gets a little older and after several "convincing" sessions still does this, I'd send it back to the breeder. Like you said, there are too many good ones to feed a bad one.

Jackies768 07-19-2007 10:10 AM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
thanks ill try the water/vinegar thing, and the scruff one too. thats a good idea. roxie hasn't bit my daughter since so i think it was just an accident. but i also havent given roxie and pig ears or bones since then either. i did try her again with the pig ear with myself though. i gave the pup a pig ear, let her chew it for about 5 min then went to take it and she growled and showed teeth and was ready to go for me but i took her snout and held it shut and yelled "no biting!" then i gave it back to her and let her chew it again for a couple minutes and grabbed it from her and she had no problem giving it up. before i feed her anything i make her sit now. that was another tip i got from this forum. (thankyou for that)

drgildy 07-24-2007 09:07 AM

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Read again what DocE wrote. I have done this with everydog I have ever had. I feed them and then tug the tail rub their ears or just pet them. I know that almost all pups sooner or later will bristle up or snap at me. When this happens I grab them by the nape of the neck pick them up by the nape and growl NOOO in their little faces. One time like this will usually let them know their place. You don't have to kill a pupu to get your point across. You can't do this to a child but it certainly works well on a pup.

kdvollmer 07-26-2007 01:50 AM

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i agree with txhunt in saying that puppies are like children as far as not sharing well. Puppies, as we should all know, and especially with food have the "what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine" attitude. Children too must learn to respect the dogs boundries. Granted, your daughter is only 1 and doesn't or didn't understand those boundries. That is a lesson sometimes that kids and animals have to learn between themseves.
I have 2 children, and when my son was barely crawling. My Basset Hound snapped at him and and got him pretty good over a rawhide. My hound got a bit of an atitude adjustment. I have NEVER had another problem with him. Both, kids and pets need to learn what they can't do. Now, my hound is superb with both my children, and my daughter is only 5 months.
Just remember, this happened with a puppy. At that age, some firm, ut fair correction may be all tha tis needed. It is too early to be getting rid of a dog, a puppy especially over something like that. If it contiues, then maybe.

fechmupbud 07-31-2007 05:05 AM

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I agree with DocE, Drgildy, and kdvollmer.You can curb that behavior with the dog, but you need to act RIGHT AWAY when the incident happens. If you don't get it across to her immediately the first time (or the second time as the case my be), you're kindaletting her know she is above the baby in the heirarchy. My older brown dog (who is ten) had a go around with me at about 8 months. He was feeling his oats and wanted to be boss (he had a chicken wing and dove under the truck). We had a mini brawl of sort, but I never really hurt him. Anyhoo,he lost and was neutered within 16 hours. (andI was down one coffee tablethat he was hiding under untilI threw it across the room :eek:). I can reach in his mouth and take food out while he's chewing. [:'(]I also did this (the food conditioning, not breaking another coffe table) with our younger black pup.

I was bitten in the face by a white german shepard when I was four. I sat there in the yard with my friend petting him gently, and he bit me. To this day, I can't figure for the life of me what went wrong to trigger that incident. There's a good possibility me being bitten was uncalled for, but once you start pulling out pigears and stuff, I do believe they could exercise some bad judgement like your pup did. Personally, I wouldn't give up on her, and I would teachthe babyto be gentle and respectful to the dog, and when the dog may be saying it needs a little alone time (when it's trying to walk away) to respect that. I have three nieces and a nephew, and whenever they're aroundourboys, my wife and I are on alert.Once you know your dog well, you will be able sense what's going intheir mind just by body language.No doubt, the baby should be higher in the pack order. You can keep that dog from doing that ever again without shooting her or just giving up on her - train her. Good luck!


P.S.
This rings true with me as well.

It is funny how times have changed. Years ago, it was understood that a dog should never be touched while it was eating. However, litigation and times have changed.

sproulman 08-16-2007 10:19 PM

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boy, i dont know if i would leave kid around dog that bites,puppy or not..

we all try to bring dogs into home and around people, some dont adapt to it..
its born in them..
most have TERRITORIAL AGGRESSION in home....

i know what you are going thru..
dogs have problem with KIDS...
you hate to give dog away or kill it....
but biting is nasty..

my lab is first dog i ever had that BITES..
i have to watch him all time,never left around kids..
vet said he is seeing more labs biting than ever before...

believe me,if i did not have time to watch my dog, he would be in kennel all time,on leash he gets FEAR AGGRESSION...

trust me, if that puppy bit it will most likely do it again,maybe?....
i hate to tell you that even tho dogs will bite at food bowls etc..

its terrible we have to go thru this, i had over 13 dogs in my life and only 1 that bites...
so, as said, there is better mannered dogs available but its hard to part with you dog,i know, i am going thru it,no fun.....

if it gets worst, most likely it could, i would think of kennel for dog but thats a heck of way to go but keeps dog alive anyhow....

like said, if dog bites 1 more time,i hate to say it that way,i would find another home but dog will most likely bite there to,so thas no good..

i would most likely KENNEL dog if it bites again, take dog for walks and hunting but no way around KIDS ..
i am believer if you have time dog can get better thru hadling etc BUT if dog bites, it will do it AGAIN,i seen it over and over.....

Snooky 08-21-2007 08:36 PM

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In less than 12 weeks, the record shows in part;

My daughter went up to Roxie and went to pet her and Roxie snarled like i have never heard her do before (it was mean and nasty) and bit Ambers hand. Roxie broke skin and bruised her hand.


The pup did snap at my daughters face while they were playing but i dont think she meant it.

My first dog was a Florida Cur, used to hunt wild hogs, I was 1 year old at the time my Grandmother got him for me, so I have had big game hounds since before I can remember. I am going on 65 now, I have 4 Bear and lion dogs currently. Big game dogs must have plenty of grit and aggression to make the grade. A dog that doesn't have the inbred respect for humans and recognize their master doesn'tget many chances to maul and main children or adults around here. I see from the posts that some like the posibility of their dog disfiguring a child, putting a lifelong fear of every dog they see in the child, or worse, not surviving the attack. One said if their dog bite someone other than a thief, they would have to pay the price. What price doesthe disfigured child that goes through life, scared, fearful, never able to forget what happened pay? How can you pay such a price as to make it right with the victim of a warped love for an animal that puts humanity behind or below the animals. Have we become a world of animal worshippers that sacrifice our children to the animal gods that have our highest regard and love? No? Well how far removed are we if we allow human agressive animals in our homes and say, after our children have been bitten, that they didn't mean it, they are really sweet animals, and we really love them to much to get rid of them? Then do the children a favor and place them in a safe home without the constant threat of being mauled and possibly killed by a "sweet" animal. You may be a great dog trainer, but remember, you cannot train DNA. Genetics can't be trained out of a dog. With the best training, those traits are only supressed and lay hidden within the animal. Who but God knows when something will trigger them and the animal reverts back to his genitic programming and tragity hits hard and swift before it can be stopped.

sproulman 08-21-2007 09:48 PM

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thats why if you have dog like that, you must handle them,not let them loose.

when company comes, kennel dog.
never kids near dog...
if you have youngkids, get rid of dog..
never put dog on leash tied in yard.....

if you cant be there to watch dog,then KENNEL the dog..

it takes a lot of time to keep a biting dog alive and around people keep dog away and kennel dog when you are not there...

Mite 08-22-2007 01:44 AM

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My daughter went up to Roxie and went to pet her and Roxie snarled like i have never heard her do before (it was mean and nasty) and bit Ambers hand. Roxie broke skin and bruised her hand.
Roxie was chewing on a pig's earat the time. Considering the age of the puppy, 10 weeks old, its doing what naturally comesto all dogs, protecting its food. It hasn't learned better and Amber is not yet in a position to adjusts Roxie attitude.

I've had a 2 year old and a 3 year old nephews around our goldie. The dog never bitten them or acted aggressively. We made sure there never was a situation where she could. Also they constantly feed her which, of course, made her overweight. This dog now has been around my nephew since the age of six. Early on I supervised what he should say to dog, commanding it, and which I made sure she obeys.


The pup did snap at my daughters face while they were playing but i dont think she meant it.
All young pups willeventually break skin when playing. I had scratch marks crisscrossedall along my forearm from playing. She'll also play bites but it can still hurt or break skin. But I allow that with me. With my nephew, she won't play as hard as he won't play as hard as I do.


Snooky 08-22-2007 08:20 AM

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Considering the age of the puppy, 10 weeks old, its doing what naturally comesto all dogs,

IMO this isn't a true statement at all, it is a cop out for the dog. The dog was born without a natural respect for mankind. Amimal agression and human agression in an animal aren't the same thing. If you breed human agressive animals to human agressive animals, it only get worse. This is done in show dogs to get the posturing needed to win the big money shows. Those that aren't show stock find thier way into "pet" homes with children for which the dog has no respect by nature. Its not in his DNA to respect humans. It has been bred out of him as with a wild animal. This pup IMO has just shown his inbred disregard for his master at a very young age and it will only strengthen itself with age. That is based on a lifetime of experience with big game hunting dogs, take it for what it is worth. What is the walfare of a child worth?

hillbillyhunter1 08-22-2007 09:13 AM

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Jackie,

I'm glad that you realized that the "fault" with the biting episode was yours. A one year old child should never have unsupervised interaction with a "new" pet, until all boundaries have been established and trust can be placed in pet, and in some respects, in the child as well (as many children like to pull and prod animals). Although a mature and trusted family pet should be expected to act appropriatey around young-uns, whatever the young-uns actions, a new puppy has to learn what is appropriate, just as a child may have to learn what is appropriate around new pets. Perhaps feed puppy her pig ears in her cage. I bet you don't have any more problems as long as you and your husband act as the supervisors of all parties involved:)

sproulman 08-22-2007 08:12 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
usually a biting dog is in full bloom at around 1 year old.....
that seems to be time it can go good or bad...

if dog bites aggressively as pup,not teeth thing, he will almost surely do it again...

only advice i can give is try to get dog around KIDS more,i just said earlier STAY AWAY FROM KIDS..


thats right,but ONLY way you will have chance to correct this,is by dog being not afraid of kids,,sadly, who wants a kid bit again, i dont ..
but its only way to lessen this is by kids being around dog and dog getting used to them and not biting..

its a very dangerous way to try to corect this but the only way..

i seen it done but it takes a lot of time and you must be vigilent every second and be right there to control dog..

i saw kid bit by dog , then feeding dog 1 year later out of his hand..
it took many practice sessions with dog/kid to be able to see that happen..
it can be done and dog can get better but itsa lot of work..

if you cant do this, then kennel is only place or to home without small kids..

in all honesty, i never brought a dog into my home until my kids were 12 years old,i had my dogs in yard ,in dog house...


Christine B 08-30-2007 12:52 AM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
You have received alot of information on this thread. Most of it good....


At 10 weeks of age, the pup was doing exactly what it would do if it was still with the rest of the litter. It was normal behavior. What would have happened in the "pack" is that the other pup would have either backed off or would have bit the other pup back. Obviously your little daughter is too young to exert any dominance (alpha) behavior. So from now on, the daughter must be kept away from the pup when it has a food object. Adult humans need to mess with the pup when it has a food object, and if the pup is aggressive/protective at that time, the human adult should make the proper correction.
It wasn't the 10 week old pup's fault. It was just being a 10 week old pup. It needs to "learn it's place", but a one year old human isn't capable of doing so.


You need to establish dominance with the dog. You don't need to be physical. While all three of our dogs I roll them over and let my son stand over them while they are on their back. A dog on it's back is the most submissive stance for a dog. With your daughter standing over it the dog realizes that she is more dominant than her. Just my 2 cents.

Basically, I bit him back. I would grab him by the scruff of the neck and growl at him and even shake some. I had to be a little rough. I also would spray a mixture of 3 parts water to one part vinegar at his nose (not his eyes). Now he's one of the nicest dogs I know. A great dog and quite trustworthy. Bite your dog back now and you won't have to later.
I agree with the above quotes for the most part... I have had Wolves, Wolf/hybrids for years and now have an Argentine Dogo. I have actually never had a problem with any of my animals, all are trained to hand signals and have been/are exceptional animals. Sadly in the past 30 yrs some have been lost to old age.
I agree that there is no need to be physical with the exception of the very first instance of a growl, or nip/bite when a pup. Tried and true method for me has been rather than just roll them over to present their belly,,, You need to grip their neck(under their throat) as if it was their mom biting them and shake...(hard enough for them to know it!! and growl too, as if their mom was giving them the bite ( pinching hard enough on their neck skin that they know it....not to damage them for life) Then without saying anything immediately put them on their back belly up, the most submissive posture they can have. Have your daughter stand over them if you want but usually once you establish the "Alpha" in the group (which should be you) all should progress from there hopefully. My advise other than what has been said would be teach with love, dicipline, and use tonal inflection not physical punishment for training. The only thing I have ever had to use was the above method to reinforce dominance and that I was the Alpha.

I have had very large dogs for years and all have been well trained, wonderful companions and family members. However, I did make my mother a promise when I got my first wolf/hybrid 30 yrs ago that he would be well trained. He was.....and all have been since. Where I draw the bottom line is that once they are past their puppy hood and trained, if there is a bite due to agression of any type, to either me, or my son. The animal will be dog gone. That may sound harsh but....if they show that type of agression and are past the pup stage...it is a red flag and a sign of future problems. JMHO. Good luck and keep us posted. :)

P.S. I should also have stated that I have all of my animals spayed or neutered(sp) as soon as they were old enough to avoid their natural dominance behavior such as Testosterone in males( It makes a huge difference). But then I had no plan on breeding. No offence to any one.... ;) Again, Good Luck!!!

sproulman 08-30-2007 06:38 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
you are right about biting beyond puppyhood..
i am going thru it right now..
its better but i cant leave dog around any strangers or kids he does not know..

you have to kennel dog or leash around people so you can control him..

someone said you just dont know when they will snap, he is right, you dont know what causes it..

dog trainer on tv says we are putting to many dogs to sleep than we need to, he said it takes time to correct a biting dog..

i agree, mine is getting better but you cant trust him...
that i have to live with until he dies..

he is great dog to me and family but i never will let him loose or near strangers he does not know..
he will lick face of person he knows....

Christine B 08-31-2007 12:29 AM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
Sproulman,

You are exactly right!! I know the love most of us have for our dogs but... regardless of how well trained they may be and/or become, as much as we want too trust them, they can never be trusted 100%.
Heck, I would bet money on mine not hurting anyone but...it would be a bad bet. When it comes to my son and I...I pity anyone that would try to harm either of us. Any dog regardless of size can have a melt down. That is why we are responsible owners and do whatever needs done to train and socialize our dogs.

For me personally my dogs are not that socialized except to close friends/family and their dogs....and then there are the "neighborhood" dogs that just roam. Argggghhhh...even so both of my huge animals will allow those dogs to drink from their water buckets and will play with them. Food is another story and they do that on a case per case basis. LMBO!!! ;)

Here is a pic of Shaman, we still need to get a good pic of our Dogo. When we do I will post that one. :)

bmt_hunter 09-02-2007 09:08 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
Not to be cruel to your dog, but our local Bow shop owner's daughter was bit on the scalp by a friend's dog and she required like 30 stitches. If I had been the owner, I would have put my own dog down for that. Don't let it come to either scenario.


sproulman 09-03-2007 05:35 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 

ORIGINAL: bmt_hunter

Not to be cruel to your dog, but our local Bow shop owner's daughter was bit on the scalp by a friend's dog and she required like 30 stitches. If I had been the owner, I would have put my own dog down for that. Don't let it come to either scenario.
its sad that dog will bite..
even tho dog bit that shops owners daughter, if i thought the dog could get better, i would not put him away.

you have to look at it and decide, do i have time to work with the dog or can i stand putting dog in kennel..

if you cant do none of above, i would put dog down.....

i am going thru it and it is getting a lot better, my dog is 4 years old BUT i can never trust him again near CERTAIN people unless i have control of him..

FireDiver 09-04-2007 09:41 AM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
A friend's lab bit their 2 year old daughter in the face, requiring stitches, and they wrote it off as a one time thing.

6 months later it happened again.....more stitches in the face.

sproulman 09-04-2007 07:48 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 

ORIGINAL: FireDiver

A friend's lab bit their 2 year old daughter in the face, requiring stitches, and they wrote it off as a one time thing.

6 months later it happened again.....more stitches in the face.
it usually happens again..
my lab tonight when i went to fill his water bowl growled bigtime at me..

for last 2 years i could take that dish from him, tonight he got mean..

why? because i was argueing with my family and he took it that i was yelling at him..

labs seem to be very sensitive if you have alpha dog..

yes, i would never let dog around daughter anymore......

jwy 09-28-2007 05:14 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
Just reading everyones advice,Please get control of it now while she is a puppy. I recently had the privalage of a 70lbs lab on my arm(not pleasant).He is a friends dog,2yrs old, never handled,lease broke or anything else i can tell.He wanted me to see if i could do anything with him.When i first put the lease on he turned and grabbed my arm, he hadnever showed agrression before this (ever).We ended up with him on his back with my left hand around his throat with me sitting on him.When he calmed down I let him up.We've never had a problem with him since he just didn't know that it wasn't allowed.There are breeds of dogs that i would never let a child around,Most hunting dogs are OK.They just need to learn and are usually willing to do so.Its alot easier when they are a pup.Keep that baby safe at all cost even if it means getting rid of the pup.

sproulman 09-28-2007 05:49 PM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 

ORIGINAL: jwy

Just reading everyones advice,Please get control of it now while she is a puppy. I recently had the privalage of a 70lbs lab on my arm(not pleasant).He is a friends dog,2yrs old, never handled,lease broke or anything else i can tell.He wanted me to see if i could do anything with him.When i first put the lease on he turned and grabbed my arm, he hadnever showed agrression before this (ever).We ended up with him on his back with my left hand around his throat with me sitting on him.When he calmed down I let him up.We've never had a problem with him since he just didn't know that it wasn't allowed.There are breeds of dogs that i would never let a child around,Most hunting dogs are OK.They just need to learn and are usually willing to do so.Its alot easier when they are a pup.Keep that baby safe at all cost even if it means getting rid of the pup.
my lab is a lot better at 4 yrs old ,BUT i watch him like hawk.you can never take for granted that he will not bite again, so you keep people from doing what sets him off.

mine does not like his mouth touched,he does not attack ,he gaurds home but not out in public he is different dog..

he is territorial aggressive and fear aggression..

i have to say he is a lot better but it took me over 3 years to get him at least to point he is not biting when you put your hand down...

but i would never let him alone with kid..

swamp rooster 10-01-2007 10:44 AM

RE: my dog bit my daughter...
 
not the pups fault just being a pup.(and someone said that good dogs can be found everyday),,theres very few people who get the chance to own a truely good dog there few and far between.


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