WARNING: Some meathead dogs just won't train. You will know if it's going to work for them well before it's time to let them off the leash to roam by themselves.

Many times, failed training has to do with the trainer and not the dog. Most units come with an instructional video, which I recommend watching and following to a 'T'.

Have you ever been shocked by an electric fence, like the kind they put up to keep cows in, PA? Just curious if it was anything like that.

Very similar. Just as strong in my opinion.

Imagine taking both hands and grabbing ahold of the fence and waiting for the pulse. YOWSA! If I was wearing the collar, I wouldn't attempt crossing the fence, that's for sure. LOL!

What I have:

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LOL...I've actually done that. I thought it was off, and I was going to unwire it so we could move cattle. OUCH!

If you have a headstrong dog, petsafe makes an "invisible fence" that don't require burrying a wire.With hard headed dogs, they'll figure out that once they jump the wire, the shocking will stop. With this one, if they go outside the boundary, it keeps shocking until they get back into the safe zone. The unit is adjustable for a certain radius and comes with flags. Once you've set it, the collar will beep when it gets to within 5ft of the boundary. If they go past that, the shock comes into play. I have a buddy that has one and his Jack Russel Terrier has NEVER even thought of going close to the boundary. might be something to look into.

Thanks, T/C. I was wondering that also.

T/C. My ex had one of those for her Rottweiler.

I remember one time when she was just introduced to the fence, she ran over to the neighbor who grabbed hold of her collar.... He couldn't figure out why the dog kept yelping. Here he was preventing the dog from getting back into her safe zone.

Those units work well, but don't they only have a 50ft (yd?) radius field?

I'm also interested in one of these fences for my dog (7 month old Black Lab). We're (my fiance and I) are gone each day from
about 7:30-5 every day at work. Right now he's blocked into a corner of the basement (where he can have free reign if he ever stops chewing on everything
and yes, I give him lots of toys) but I'd like him to be able to be outside at his leisure. My thoughts are to put in an
invisible fence (I have an acre and intend to fence in all but about the front 20' that runs along the road) and then put in a
dog door (one with the lock de-activated by a magnet on their collar) in the back of my garage. What I'm wondering is, how do the
do-it-yourself kits compare to the professionally installed kits? Are they hard to do? Do they seem to have the same power?
Thanks for your help!

PA, theone my buddy has is adjustable out to 90ft from the main unit. So if you put that unit in a centrallocation, it'll cover a 180ft radius. www.petsafe.net