Va, beware of the Gun-Grabbers
 

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Hunters need to be aware of this.. We are one if not the largest stockholder in gunright in the state.
We all need to contact our Senator/Delegate before these bills hit the VaGA and voice our opinion.
The Daily Progress summarized their proposals:...
The group recommended a special warrant that would allow police to remove firearms from the possession of people authorities believe to be a danger to themselves or others. Additionally, the consortium proposed a new civil restraining order process could allow citizens to petition the court for the temporary removal of firearms from friends or family members who are considered at that time to be dangerous, according to the report.
Other high-risk populations targeted by the consortium's recommendations include people with histories of substance abuse and domestic violence.
Another recommendation temporary bars anyone convicted of a violent misdemeanor; a temporary domestic violence restraining order placed on them; or multiple DUI, DWI or controlled substance convictions in the past five years from purchasing or possessing firearms.
“We are looking not just at mental illness, but at elevated risk,” Horwitz said. “We also need to look at meaningful prohibitions for people who are at increased risk for other reasons.”
So who gets to decide the people at an "elevated risk"? You guessed it - the gun ban lobby. VSSA will be paying special attention to mental health bills. It will be a busy session again this year.

They want to make Va like 1940 Germany which had neighbors spying on neighbors and kids reporting on parents. They also want to be able to confiscate weapons from people by police with NO JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT. All to stop mass killings. They do not realize this will do nothing for that agenda This is spearheaded by Lori Hass an avid anti gun activist who has connections to Bloomberg's group. Be very attentive over the next 4 years as they see Va as the next Maryland and New York thanks to the recent elections. They are also now calling it" Gun Safety" instead of gun control. Be aware, very aware.

This is what happens when you vote in liberals .... McAuliffe and his group of gun grabbers are out to get your guns and your Freedoms & 2nd Amendment Rights....
These guys are puppets for KING obama and Bloomberg....

To fight these communist and fight for you gun rights join the NRA...

Here in Virginia there is an organization called Virginia Citizen Defense League .....

Join the VCDL...

The VCDL fights for your gun rights in Virginia in the General Assembly......

GET INVOLVED.......

And as vapahuntr said....be aware .....very aware.....

The VCDL only fights for the rights they see fit too. Yes they support 2nd amendment rights or issues but not all. They support the ban on Sunday Hunting in Virginia also.

They are NOT a hunting organization .... That's why they don't fight for Sunday Hunting.... They fight for your 2nd Amendment Rights...

My 2nd Amendment Rights will always come before Sunday Hunting...

You can't hunt .... If they come and TAKE YOUR GUN AWAY....

yes you sure can... muzzleloaders and archery! :happy0001:

Alex G ... I guess your being sarcastic ..... Because IF they ever do find a way to take your guns believe me your muzzleloader....bow and arrows and anything they deem to be a WEAPON will be CONFISCATED.......only the elite and ruling class will have guns to protect themselves from us peasants....

When asked to support removal of the Sunday Hunting ban, They said NO. When they asked me to join them I say NO. Supporting hunting IS supporting gun rights. SCOTUS even referenced this in the Heller decision. Fear of taking bows and muzzleloaders only shows how far some will go to get members. I have never heard the VCDL mention those two items. Nice try.

Personally I DO NOT support the VCDL. They opted not to support the fight to lift the ban on Sunday hunting. This puts them on the same side as the Virginia Dog Hunting Assoc and the Humane Society. Two groups I find hard to stomach due to their political views and agendas.

I do support our second amendment and am a lifetime member of the NRA.

Its not about which group you support. Its about getting behind a movement to end this gun grabbing. To do this we HAVE TO get together.
Sometime this will mean supporting a group that you don't agree with. Dissension in the ranks is why Republicans and Conservatives lose elections. We can't stand firmly together.
Dems ALWAYS vote in lockstep. They close ranks and vote, regardless of the stink.

The gun grabber see this, and use it to their advantage EVERY TIME. They do it little bits at a time.
We need to stand together, all of us. In order to stop this continued erosion of our rights.

The second amendment doesn't say that we MUST own firearms. It says that we CAN own firearms. The gun grabbers don't like this. Its not "controlled" by them. They are solely focused on control.

When they have our guns, they have control. COMPLETE CONTROL. Our second amendment allows us the ability to resist an oppressive government, they can't stand this. It doesn't fit their world view.

No where did I say the VCDL said the government would take your muzzleloader or bows and arrows....
I SAID (me..not the VCDL) IF they ever take your guns THEN THEY WILL go after your muzzleloader.....and anything they feel can kill another person...and you can bet they look at muzzleloaders and bows almost the same as a shotgun or hand gun...to the liberal gun grabbers a weapon is a weapon....if it can kill they are SCARED of it and don't want anyone to have it...
I'll keep fighting for OUR 2nd Amendment Rights....because if WE lose them....you won't have to worry about hunting on Sundays....
Because you won't be able to hunt at all.....

I can support 2nd Amendment rights many ways without supporting VCDL or other groups that are very narrow minded. Sorry but supporting only one agenda is failing to support hunters who also want their rights upheld as well. I support those who would support ALL gun rights which include ALL legal uses of firearms. Sorry but the VCDL does not do that.

As I said before the VCDL is NOT a hunting organization.....they are an organization that supports your 2nd Amendment Rights.....they have nothing to do with hunting.....and the VCDL supports the use of ALL legal firearms......I'm also a member of the NRA....
I WANT SUNDAY HUNTING TOO....but as I said Sunday Hunting takes a back seat to my 2nd Amendment Rights.....

vapahunter, now who is narrow minded. You demand that they support what you want or you wont support them? Then don't.
But remember, its about the whole picture, not your little part of it. Without the big picture, we get lost, and we lose big.

The dems have the big picture in mind at all times. They want total control of our guns.
We must support all groups, and not discriminate against those who may not always be in line with your own goals.
We can have all groups, even those we disagree with on our side.

Well said sconny....we as hunters and gun owners need to stand as one in order to win both Sunday Hunting and defeat the liberal gun grabbers....

Let's not forget there were those who were willing to vote out or not support Republicans just because of their views on Sunday hunting. Now we have two US Senators who will follow the Democrat agenda at the federal level and a Democratic Governor elect that does not support gun rights or Sunday hunting for that matter. I fear in the next 4 years our gun freedoms are going to be under serious assault from these liberal idiots.

Onto the matter of the VCDL. I could be wrong but I seem to remember they were "neutral" on the Sunday hunting issue.

By many peoples own admission if you are neutral on the issue then you are against it. But they have stated numerous times they would not help to remove theban. That is not being neutral.

And yes I am very narrow minded on the issue. Republican lawmakers are the ones keeping the hunting ban in place and it is Democrats who say they will remive the ban. So why did Democrats succed in Virginia? They at least said they would remove the ban.

Your #1 democrat McAuliffe feels the ban on Sunday hunting should stay in place. He more than likely would not sign a Sunday hunting bill if it were sent to his desk. I'm afraid our time has passed. McDonnell was in favor of some form of Sunday hunting as was Cuccinelli. McAuliffe thinks the "status quo" is fine with him. He is more concerned with passing "Colorado" style gun control(his words, not mine) than he is Sunday hunting.

With these people in charge, I'm afraid Sunday hunting will be the least of our worries in a few years.

Edited to add: The VCDL has what they call a "legislative tracking tool." They track proposed bills and categorize them as to whether they oppose them, strongly oppose, are neutral, support, or strongly support. I remember a sunday hunting bill from a couple years back being listed as neutral.

Single issue politics is how we have gotten to where we are today. We MUST stand united as a party REPUBLICAN OR CONSERVATIVE. We must stand united. I know it stinks. But look what we face for opposition. The Dems stand as ONE. For every vote. Regardless of the consequences.

I find it funny that you think the democrats are on your side when it comes to Sunday hunting and guns.....
When the Dems know the Sunday Hunting bill will fail because Republicans will vote against it.....they then vote YES because they know it will LOOK GOOD and GET them VOTES .....and that's what counts.....YOU VOTING FOR THEM.....
And when it comes to guns....you now have a Governor who is ANTI GUN and received MILLIONS from Bloomberg to defeat Cuccinelli who was PRO GUN....And two Senators who are ANTI GUN....
McAuliffe ...Warner and Kaine are all puppets of KING obama and he's Americas biggest GUN GRABBER....
And you trust the Democrats.......?????
A vote for any Democrat is a vote against your Freedoms and Liberties .

Good to know. They appear to be neutral to Sunday hunting. I will continue to be neutral to their organization.

Unfortunately Virginia's political waters have been changing over the past 10 years. It used to be a strong Republican stronghold. Democrats have taken control of the Governor's mansion, have carried the past 2 presidential elections along with many other political positions. If the Republicans want to regain control of Virginia, they had better start bringing some less far right candidates. It will take a moderately conservative Rebuplican to win in this state anymore. Northern Va and the DC suburbs are taking over. It is sad but true. The longer the current Republican party keeps preaching that ultra conservatives are the way of the future, the bigger hole they will have to dig out of.

Just stating facts here.

bull.... THAT is a typical vcdl member extreme. The vcdl might be a good org for just a gun owner, but hunters make up a great portion of gun owners in Va and many do not agree with their politics. Especially when their PAC supports candidates that have no expectation of winning. And the winning candidates they do support are maintain the status quo or anti expanding hunting. Perhaps thats one of the reasons the election went the way it did.. I dont know. What I do know is that I didnt vote for the gun grabbers but I didnt cause of my decision, not to show support of the vcdl. Their a good source of info but I view their politics the same as kirby burch and jim hackett of the vahda... they represent what they want to, not what their members want to...

Alex G....the above post doesn't seem extreme to you...but saying that they will take your muzzleloader is extreme ....
Get real and wake up....

yes because muzzleloaders and archery equipment were never mentioned in the OP so you including them with no proof.. that IS extreme...
And since mzldr & archery equipment doesnt fall under any state or federal registery/permit/background check system. How will they get them when they dont know you have them in the first place?

And I posted the original post because it IS extreme, I never said it wasnt.

Alex I agree that post is extreme ....

Have you ever bought a muzzleloader or a bow permit....????
That's one way they will know if you have them....
Ever post on a hunting site about hunting with a muzzleloader or bow...???
That's another way they will know....
Ever send a text message to someone about muzzleloader or bow hunting....????
That's just another way they will know.....
Remember your living under a tyrannical government and if they want to find out anything about you and what you do there's nothing to stop them...

I follow their legislative tracking tool each year to keep informed of possible anti 2nd amendment bills. If and when a Sunday hunting bill is introduced, I will be sure to pay attention to their stance.

Here is a link to the tracking tool for 2014:

http://www2.vcdl.org/webapps/vcdl/2014leg.html

If some politicians have their way, you can bet muzzleloaders will be treated just like any other firearm.

Thanks for the link. I have it bookmarked for future bills that come up.

It's ludicrous if you think that this will ever happen!

Well its already started...
SB 9 Hunting coyotes on Sunday.
Thomas A. Garrett | all patrons ...
Summary as introduced:
Hunting coyotes on Sunday. Makes it lawful to hunt or kill coyotes on Sundays.
Full text:
12/04/13 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/08/14 14100706D pdf
Status:
12/04/13 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/08/14 14100706D
12/04/13 Senate: Referred to Committee on Agriculture, Conservation and Natural Resources

I would have never guessed someone with a background like McAuliffe could have ever been elected as Governor either.


Here is another and should cause quite a stir:


SB 13 Hunting dogs, etc.; permission from landowner to retrieve from property.

Introduced by: Thomas A. Garrett | all patrons ... notes | add to my profiles
SUMMARY AS INTRODUCED:

Retrieval of hunting dogs and other animals. Requires a hunter to make a good faith effort to obtain permission from the landowner, his agent, or a person occupying a residence located on the property before entering the property to retrieve his hunting dogs, falcons, hawks, or owls from the property.

FULL TEXT

• 12/04/13 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/08/14 14100446D pdf

HISTORY

• 12/04/13 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/08/14 14100446D
• 12/04/13 Senate: Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice