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Old 09-21-2012, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Eyedr
We can agree to disagree, but I might recommend you to a dictionary. Obama is not a Communist, he is not a Socialist, and voting for Obama is not a violation of treason.

The problem with the upcoming election on the national level is that both choices leave a hell of a lot to be desired. Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles and he is really out of touch with the working class American. He scares the crap out of me. Obama on the other hand has a country on the brink of bankruptcy with all we owe to China, is trying to force his health reform on the country, and is out of touch with private business. Pick your poison. Both options make it hard to have faith that my son and daughter will have a bright future here in this great country.

The real problem with our disfunctional country is Congress. The Republicans are sitting on their asses making sure that nothing gets accomplished until the election so Obama doesnt look good before election day. There is no budget and nothing is getting done at all. It is time for this country to have BOTH sides work together and try to promote America instead of trying to only promote THEIR party. It is disgusting. The only way we get out of this hole we have dug is to work together.

End of my national political soapbox.

The most important thing for us to do is write each and everyone of the Va. State representatives and senators on the sub committees and express the issues with the Sunday Hunting ban.
Earlier this week Paul Ryan visited Danville, VA where he talked about some of Obama's ideas. Here is a good recap from the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...0e8_story.html

IMO, Obama and his policies are detrimental to our country. I'm not a fan of "redistribution of wealth" as Obama is. I'm sure many others in here feel the same as I do. I also feel coal is one of our country's great resources and Obama and the EPA policies are going to kill us.

This is one of my problems with Kaine as he will vote with Obama on any issue.

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:13 AM
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Allen is correct in saying that it is a state issue and not a federal one. The election to change the outcome of Sunday hunting is in 2013.
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vadeer
Allen is correct in saying that it is a state issue and not a federal one. The election to change the outcome of Sunday hunting is in 2013.
And he is absolutely correct BUT he can influence how the vote goes on a state level. If all the senior Republican leadership came out and said they are for removal of the ban on General Sunday hunting it would be gone during the next General assembly. Totally and completely gone. The only one who has ever came out publicly was McDonnel when he said he would support removal of the ban on private property. That was before he got elected. Since then not a single peep out of any one of them.

So yes it is a state issue BUT politicians get elected by campaigning on state issues that are affected on a national scale. Also what they say affects state level issues. So where is the Senior Republican support or even disagreement with the removal of this ban. They all are convienently silent on it. Why is that???? Get them to go public and see what happens.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:39 AM
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Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles...
Can you provide examples? If he were that dismal a failure then how did he become a self-made millionaire? How did he run a sucessful Olympics when it was deemed pretty much impossible? Obviously your statement is at best uninformed, at worst a huge exaggeration. In either case, it's blatently false.

Back to the topic (forgive me if this has been covered--I haven't read the whole thing lately). It is a state issue. I am an avid hunter, and have been all my life. I know that, in my area, there are lots of rual churches, surrounded by a lot of prime hunting land. Folks just don't care to have their worship services interrupted by the sound of high powered rifles.

If the folks that want hunting on Sunday become a majority, they they can vote in politicians who will put their interests first.

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Old 09-23-2012, 07:51 AM
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Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.

Saying that you are going to vote for a Democrat because Republicans are not sufficiently pro-gun is like moving to Alaska because Virginia is not sufficiently warm.
The old adage is "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's plain stupid to do that. The dem party is supported by groups like peta and hci, who in turn supports them.

Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LBR
Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.



The old adage is "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's plain stupid to do that. The dem party is supported by groups like peta and hci, who in turn supports them.

Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever.
LBR..... I'v been trying since the beginning of this post to try and make a few on here to see just how bad it would be to vote for a Dem......Kane (D) is ANTI GUN.....but it just dosn't seem to matter...it's like beating you head on a wall....all you get is a headache.....
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vapahunter
And he is absolutely correct BUT he can influence how the vote goes on a state level. If all the senior Republican leadership came out and said they are for removal of the ban on General Sunday hunting it would be gone during the next General assembly. Totally and completely gone. The only one who has ever came out publicly was McDonnel when he said he would support removal of the ban on private property. That was before he got elected. Since then not a single peep out of any one of them.

So yes it is a state issue BUT politicians get elected by campaigning on state issues that are affected on a national scale. Also what they say affects state level issues. So where is the Senior Republican support or even disagreement with the removal of this ban. They all are convienently silent on it. Why is that???? Get them to go public and see what happens.
Your theory does not hold water since Allen was defeated 2 years ago by the Democrat Jim Webb. If electing a democratic US Senator made that much difference then I'd be sitting in a tree stand right now instead of writing this post.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LBR
Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.



The old adage is "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's plain stupid to do that. The dem party is supported by groups like peta and hci, who in turn supports them.

Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever.
I agree 100%.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by VAhuntr
Your theory does not hold water since Allen was defeated 2 years ago by the Democrat Jim Webb. If electing a democratic US Senator made that much difference then I'd be sitting in a tree stand right now instead of writing this post.
VAhuntr....you are EXACTLY RIGHT....Webb has been in office for 2 years and there's STILL NO SUNDAY HUNTING...the difference between Webb and Kane is Webb is good when it comes to the 2nd Amendment...Kane is a GUN GRABBING LIBERAL.....

EXCELLENT POST VAhuntr.....
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:00 PM
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Did any one expect Webb of Warner to do anything about Sunday Hunting? No. Does anybody expect Republicans to do anything about Sunday Hunting? Apparently yes because they get a lot of the hunters vote. So my theory either holds water or hunters are more stupid than many people think. Why because they keep voting for a party that screws them over in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
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