.223 or .22-250???
12-03-2008, 08:27 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boone County, Indiana
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.223 or .22-250???
I am considering purchasing remingtons 700 SPS for coyote hunting but I'm having trouble deciding on a cartridge. Most of my shots will probably be out there at about200-250 yards or more unless I canget them in closer but where I have been seeing them theyhave been about 200 yards out. I know a .223 has more knock down power but the .22-250 shoots flatter. I would like to sell the fur so I am worried about hide damage also.I guess I just need someone else's opinion. Any help???
12-03-2008, 09:01 PM
#2
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 68
RE: .223 or .22-250???
.22-250 by far out performs a .223! Whoever told you a .223 has more knock down wasfeeding you bull. The 250 will do anything the .223 will only better but no saying a .223 isn't a fine rifle I would just chose a 250 if your going to be making long shots more often then not. Just my 2 cents.
12-04-2008, 08:14 AM
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Fork Horn
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RE: .223 or .22-250???
I hunt for fur too. The 223 does alot less pelt damage and trust me i mean ALOT LESS...and ur rite the 22-250 does shoot flatter but theres a catch to that...If you get your 223 (AI) or (ackley improved). Then itl outshoot that 22-250 by a long shot. And especially if u role ur own llike ido...makes all the difference. But yea 223 def. the way to go...better pelts, less recoil, less noise, and the (AI) is a LASER!!!!!
12-04-2008, 09:14 AM
#5
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North Dakota
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RE: .223 or .22-250???
bigbucks98 I have a question for you. Not being ignorant just wanting to clear something up on our thinking. You said a .223 does less pelt damage and well in some aspect that is true but if you reload which you do you so you can understand that you can reload for the 250 and get very fur friendly loads since the .223 and .250 both use the same bullet. Then you stated you can AI or Ackley Improve you .223 to outperform the 250 in which you can but you can also AI a 250. Once the .223 is AI it now shoots at higher velocities to outperform the250and there goes your fur friendly gun. I guess what I am saying is if you load a .22-250 and a .223AI with a 52gr Match with the .22-250 is pushing 3750 and the .223 AI is pushing 3980 which is going to do more distruction. Just a question I am in no way trying to start a argument. Thanks
12-04-2008, 11:07 AM
#6
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 61
RE: .223 or .22-250???
A .243 is what I use, and you can do more with that than either of the other rounds, and you can do the varmint thing just as well as they do. Also if you can go .243AI or .234WSM and you will have more than either of the other guns. Just a thought I think that you can get the SPS in .243 if you can't there is another Rem700 that is similar that has the .234 in it's selection.
Out of the two options you gave I would do .223 cause you can get ammo for it cheaper just for plinking and it is just more well know and you can get it to do just as well.
Out of the two options you gave I would do .223 cause you can get ammo for it cheaper just for plinking and it is just more well know and you can get it to do just as well.
12-04-2008, 12:05 PM
#8
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 654
RE: .223 or .22-250???
I don't see how a .223AI can even get close to a plain jain 22-250.
H2O capacity of each...
.223AI 32.2 with winchester brass.
22-250 44.6 with winchester brass.
Tell me which one can fit more powder.
H2O capacity of each...
.223AI 32.2 with winchester brass.
22-250 44.6 with winchester brass.
Tell me which one can fit more powder.
12-04-2008, 04:33 PM
#9
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Klamath Falls, Or
Posts: 300
RE: .223 or .22-250???
On average the .223 is 400fps behind the 22-250 with the same weight bullet. The .223AI is generally 200fps slower than the 22-250 with the same bullet. The .223AI is a very efficient round.
12-04-2008, 06:42 PM
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Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2004
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RE: .223 or .22-250???
I use a .223, and I have had no trouble downing coyotes at distances much further than 250 yards. It's just a matter of practice. Most of my encounters hunting coyotes; however, happen at well under 100 yards. It's only when I'm in the pickup or on the tractor and just happen to run across one out in the open where some distance is involved.
As far as fur damage, the slower velocity the round is, generally the less damage it will do. For factory rounds, I like Hornady's 50 grain V-Max bullets. Until I started reloading, I used those all the time. I found them to be very fur friendly because the bullets generally fragmented very quickly, leaving fragments all along the inside without a large enough core left to push through and create an exit wound. Most .223 barrels have fairly quick twists, which helps also.
I wouldn't worry about converting a .223 into an ackley improved. If I was going to do that, I'd just get a .22-250 and save myself the cost of the conversion.
Also take barrel length into consideration. My .223 has a 20" barrel. A .223 AI or a .22-250 isn't going to give me much of an advantage unless I get a longer barrel.
As far as fur damage, the slower velocity the round is, generally the less damage it will do. For factory rounds, I like Hornady's 50 grain V-Max bullets. Until I started reloading, I used those all the time. I found them to be very fur friendly because the bullets generally fragmented very quickly, leaving fragments all along the inside without a large enough core left to push through and create an exit wound. Most .223 barrels have fairly quick twists, which helps also.
I wouldn't worry about converting a .223 into an ackley improved. If I was going to do that, I'd just get a .22-250 and save myself the cost of the conversion.
Also take barrel length into consideration. My .223 has a 20" barrel. A .223 AI or a .22-250 isn't going to give me much of an advantage unless I get a longer barrel.