.223 or .22-250???
 

I am considering purchasing remingtons 700 SPS for coyote hunting but I'm having trouble deciding on a cartridge. Most of my shots will probably be out there at about200-250 yards or more unless I canget them in closer but where I have been seeing them theyhave been about 200 yards out. I know a .223 has more knock down power but the .22-250 shoots flatter. I would like to sell the fur so I am worried about hide damage also.I guess I just need someone else's opinion. Any help???

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.22-250 by far out performs a .223! Whoever told you a .223 has more knock down wasfeeding you bull. The 250 will do anything the .223 will only better but no saying a .223 isn't a fine rifle I would just chose a 250 if your going to be making long shots more often then not. Just my 2 cents.

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Do a search of this here on huntingnet.com, this question has literally been ask ten times in the last five months

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I hunt for fur too. The 223 does alot less pelt damage and trust me i mean ALOT LESS...and ur rite the 22-250 does shoot flatter but theres a catch to that...If you get your 223 (AI) or (ackley improved). Then itl outshoot that 22-250 by a long shot. And especially if u role ur own llike ido...makes all the difference. But yea 223 def. the way to go...better pelts, less recoil, less noise, and the (AI) is a LASER!!!!!

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bigbucks98 I have a question for you. Not being ignorant just wanting to clear something up on our thinking. You said a .223 does less pelt damage and well in some aspect that is true but if you reload which you do you so you can understand that you can reload for the 250 and get very fur friendly loads since the .223 and .250 both use the same bullet. Then you stated you can AI or Ackley Improve you .223 to outperform the 250 in which you can but you can also AI a 250. Once the .223 is AI it now shoots at higher velocities to outperform the250and there goes your fur friendly gun. I guess what I am saying is if you load a .22-250 and a .223AI with a 52gr Match with the .22-250 is pushing 3750 and the .223 AI is pushing 3980 which is going to do more distruction. Just a question I am in no way trying to start a argument. Thanks

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A .243 is what I use, and you can do more with that than either of the other rounds, and you can do the varmint thing just as well as they do. Also if you can go .243AI or .234WSM and you will have more than either of the other guns. Just a thought I think that you can get the SPS in .243 if you can't there is another Rem700 that is similar that has the .234 in it's selection.

Out of the two options you gave I would do .223 cause you can get ammo for it cheaper just for plinking and it is just more well know and you can get it to do just as well.

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I would go with the .223 it's overall a good round and isa fast little sucker.

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I don't see how a .223AI can even get close to a plain jain 22-250.

H2O capacity of each...

.223AI 32.2 with winchester brass.
22-250 44.6 with winchester brass.

Tell me which one can fit more powder.

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On average the .223 is 400fps behind the 22-250 with the same weight bullet. The .223AI is generally 200fps slower than the 22-250 with the same bullet. The .223AI is a very efficient round.

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I use a .223, and I have had no trouble downing coyotes at distances much further than 250 yards. It's just a matter of practice. Most of my encounters hunting coyotes; however, happen at well under 100 yards. It's only when I'm in the pickup or on the tractor and just happen to run across one out in the open where some distance is involved.

As far as fur damage, the slower velocity the round is, generally the less damage it will do. For factory rounds, I like Hornady's 50 grain V-Max bullets. Until I started reloading, I used those all the time. I found them to be very fur friendly because the bullets generally fragmented very quickly, leaving fragments all along the inside without a large enough core left to push through and create an exit wound. Most .223 barrels have fairly quick twists, which helps also.

I wouldn't worry about converting a .223 into an ackley improved. If I was going to do that, I'd just get a .22-250 and save myself the cost of the conversion.

Also take barrel length into consideration. My .223 has a 20" barrel. A .223 AI or a .22-250 isn't going to give me much of an advantage unless I get a longer barrel.

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I would think the 223 is your only choice here.The 22-250 does not come in the 700SPS. If you want an out of the box tack driver that is cheaper than a been around brand name,choose Howa. 22-250 is the way to go. You don't need a heavy barrel either. The normal barrels shoot just as accurate as the bull barrels. The only reason a bull barrel would be needed for accuracy is if you live where you have lots of prairie dogs and are constantly shooting without a minute or 2 without cool down. For the states that don't have prairie dogs. A reg barrel will shoot just as accurate and kill just the same.

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I'm not trying to say your wrong about it not coming in .22-250 but when I first saw the700SPS it was at gander mtn and it was a .22-250. Plus unless I'm wrong this site shows it in .22-250.
http://www.snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm

Thanks for everyone's advice though, I think I have decided to go withthe .223.

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The reg SPS it doesn't but your right about it in the SPSV.

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My bad! I guess I should have specified I am looking to buy the 700 SPS-V. Remington 700 SPS-"Varmint".

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What kind of scope are you going to top it with?

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If I might ask, Y the .223 since with that rifle you do have a wide variety of choices in caliber? Just wondering. Also if you haven't decidedwhat scope and your not looking to spend a whole lot might I suggest the one of the Simmons Whitetail Classics that are on sale at midway USA right now there are two. I just put the more expensive 6.5-20x50mm mil-dot reticle one on my coyote/deer/anything smaller than an elk rifle and it is real good. In fact it is the best value in any scope I have ever shot.

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I'm really not sure about that yet but Gander MTN sells one with a scope already mounted and boresighted. Not sure if its a good scope or not though cause I forgot to check which scope it was.

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I just think it will be sufficient for what I need and I have been told that it is more fur friendly because of the lower velocity. I don't really plan on loading my own rounds right now so I wont be doing the AI conversion or anything like that. I guess if the shots are too far out I will just have to get better at calling em in!!

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I love my 223,I have killed them from 3 to 290+ yards with it and usually within 90 yards they like to get close in KY due to the hills and hollows and broken farm and forrest land,you will be able to kill them at 300 yards with it,my ruger loves the black hills 52 grain soft points and they dont explode like the ballistic tips,I like the hornady's for ground hogs,but they usually tear up some fur on coyotes.Good luck and good hunting!!

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V-max are good but the A-max are much much better.