I bought a rabbit in distress call, its a PC-7, and i can't get it to sound right. I went out to see if some crows would come in and they never came. How do you guys calls for 3 minutes with out stopping completely to take a breathe? i can only got for like 30-40 seconds before i gotta take a breath. You guys go anytips on making this thing sound right???? i got a rabbbit in distress tape i listened to for a little bit but i can't make it sound like that. DO I blow hard soft to i put my hand over the call a little or alot. and sounds i should make while calling. ANYTHING would help me out a ton.

Thanks

well first off you don't want to call for 3 minutes straight,you will run out of breath,pass out and miss that big ol coyote trotting by <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>do the whaaa,whaaa,whaaa 5 to 9 or so times then break off.wait long enough to take a breath then do it again.do this 4 to 6 or so times then break off for 3 to 5 minutes.if nothing has showed itself start the series over again.do this with emotion,after all you are dying.start with you hand over the end of the call tube and at the end of each whaaa open your hand up,before starting the next whaaa cover the end of the call tube again and so on.do this with the all important quaver,the quaver is the emotion.make it sound like the rabbit is scared and shaking,quivering whitch makes his voice quaver.this is a hard thing to discribe in words.the tape you have should have this quavering on it,listen to it carefully.i'm not sure what call the pc-7 is(i think its made by johnny stewart)but regardless of what type it is(open reed,closed reed,variable pitch)you don't have to blow hard.if your trying to get more volume out of a call that isn't a long range call then it won't sound good.blow just hard enough to make the call sing.your hand calls are no different then an electronic call box,to much volume is not a good thing(unless your calling crows)control the volume on your hand calls by covering the end.if low volume is needed then don't uncover the end of the call or open your hand the opposite way throwing the sound behind you and away from the predator.if the pc-7 is a close in coaxer call then use it as so and invest in a long range(loud)call.if it is a long range call then invest in a close in coaxer call,you should carry both types with you.always start out with the close in,not so loud call then if nothing shows and its a little windy or your in wide open country,go up to the long range call.hope this helps,its realy hard to make a sound in words.

Edited by - coyoteseeker on 01/20/2002 15:48:25

The PC-7 is made by Jhonny STewart. ANd its a long range call. So now when i go to buy a short range call do i want to get a rabbit in distress, so its the same kind of noise ( almost) or would like a mouse squeak. WHats a good short range call. I don';t got that much money but i am planning on getting a howler and that kind of stuff later on.

Say Derag2, your PC-7 probably sounds most like a jack rabbit, most long range calls give a more course sound and lower pitch, so what you need to look for is a call that will resemble a cotton tail distress, which will give you a higher pitch and less volume.Really no reason to by a squeeker call, when they get close enough for it you can instead just smack your lips to bring 'em on in.I like open reed calls and I prefer the tweetie call by Verminator calls which can be found at the Randy Anderson web sight, but there are lots of calls that will work, and don't worry too much about sounding just like the tape that you have, I've gone calling with around 10 different guys, and none of them sound like me, we all sound differently, even when using the same calls.Pay more attention to the rythum of your calling, and you will soon pick be bringing coyotes in .Good Luck!

howler is right don't worry about sounding just like the tape or the guy next door.all animals have different sounding voices,but all animals do have a certain rythem in there voice patterns.he's also right on the don't waste your money on a mouse squeeker but do get a softer higher pitched call such as the cotton tail.but also learn to use the louder more caurse rabbit call with lower volume for close in work.by close in work i mean when you only want to erach out 2 or 3 hundred yards.sometimes the lower rasp of a long range call at low volume works nice.if you realy want a mouse squeeker go to the grocery store and pick up one of those dog chew toys,test each one till you find a nice high pitched one.cut it open(better buy it and take it home first) and then you have your squeeker at around half the price it would cost in the huntin store.most of the short range calls today are cotten tail rabbit but there are a few other out there,denise kirk came out with a woodpecker hand call this year,theres pheasant calls,quail and so on.i have heard alot of good things about randy andersons vermanator call on a few other sites,this one would be a good choise.quaker boy has a few,two that i have are the magnum squaller and the super screamer.the squaller is a closed reed call that produces high pitched low volume sound.the screamer is a variable pitch call thats a little louder then the squaller but will produce higher and lower pitch calls,have had good luck with both of these calls..ej sceery has a complete line of high pitched calls as do most of the calls companys.no matter what you buy they all will work as long as you get the rythum down pat.good luck and have fun.

Edited by - coyoteseeker on 01/20/2002 19:50:58

The call i got says cotton tail in distress right on the call and the box.

You shouldn't be holding calls for long enough to take your breath away. Rabbits have very small lungs, so when you're blowing your lungs out, you're giving the WRONG sounds. Shrieks should be quick, like your lungs are only the size of your mouth. Hit sharp little shrieks with some lower pitched squeals for only about 30-45 seconds continuously, then break for a minute or so, then hit it again. Make sure to make your sound appear to &quot;run around&quot; while you're calling too, so you sound more realistic.

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so far what little calling has worked for me is like when a baby cries. They take a breath almost after every waaah. I go 2 or 3 and when I get fired up I will take it after every one or two just for the effect. Then again I am still learning and have found that squeekin on the back of my hand seems to work far better then any preditor call I have bought!

So is the sound like WHAAA WHAAA or more like AAAA AAAA does it have the WHA sound like a babie type of cry. The tape we have sounds nothign like a WHAA its more of an high pitchs screech or somthign i can't describe it.

no its a &quot;WHAAA,WHAAA.hold the call inbetwwen your thumb and your index finger.now with the other hand over the end of the call,blow.as you blow open your hand up.with your hand over the end of the call this is the &quot;WH&quot; part.as you open your hand it becomes the &quot;AAAA&quot; part.do this slowly and you will begin to hear the &quot;WHAAA&quot;opening and closing your hand fluxuates the sound.