varmintsgrudge

I did look at savage, but i have a 1500 dollar budget and since I will be getting the weatherby for 715.00 and the MSRP is 1024.00 on weatherbys website, so I dont mind the extra 200 bucks. I will be getting a savage 93 BTVS in .22 magnum for bunnies, that looks like a really good gun.

NMFowler

I find it funny that everyone automatically tried to discredit the 204 Ruger in favor of the 22-250. I'm not knocking the 22-250, because I know it is a tried, true, and proven round. However, with that being said look tat these ballistics that I copied strait from the Hornaday site.
204 RUGER 40 GR V-MAX
83206
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle
100 yd
200 yd
300 yd
400 yd
500 yd
3900/1351
3482/1077
3103/855
2755/674
2433/526
2133/404

Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle
100 yd
200 yd
300 yd
400 yd
500 yd
-1.5
0.7
0.00
-4.3
-13.2
-28.1


.22-250 Rem., 40 gr. V-MAX
8335
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle
100 yd
200 yd
300 yd
400 yd
500 yd
4150/1529
3553/1121
3032/816
2568/585
2148/410
1771/278

Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle
100 yd
200 yd
300 yd
400 yd
500 yd
-1.50
0.60
0.00
-4.50
-14.20
-31.70

And Yes I shoot this gun out to 500 yards. This is not a shot that I practice off of sticks for application in the field, but one I play with on calm days with a bench and rest. Plus I think it is great that you all can spend a bundle on your varmint guns, but as a SSgt (E-5) in the Air Force supporting a wife and four year old, I’m lucky I can afford the toys I have.

varmintsgrudge

I saw those same ballistics. I have given it some more thought and will be going with a .204, it should work just fine for me

mauser06

i never said the 250 was a better choice...heck they are darn near identical..the 204 seems to shine with lighter bullet weights...but then wind is a bigger factor...and has a lower BC..and will run out of steam quicker...

250s are known as barrel burners...but by the time i put 2000-3000 rounds through mine, well, i think i will have my moneys worth by then lol...

the 20 and 22cals can and will kill at 500yds...but there are better choices if your normal shooting is indeed over 300 or so...if you have the occassional poke, then you really dont need the extra power of 6mm/243 rounds...if you can get the bullet where it needs to be.

varmintsgrudge

at firstmost of my shooting will be 300 yards and less; and besides, if I find out I really need a .243 or 6mm type caliber, thats just an excuse to buy another gun.

mauser06

now you got the right idea....go get em man

once you get one good varmint rig youll be soaking money into it and planning on building another...its addicting...

good luck with it

wyotimberghost

You should take a look at the Howa varminter supreme if you like the action on the Weatherby Vanguard. It's essentially the exact same action, but the Howa comes with a much more attractive Boyd's laminate varminter stock and it has a much more attractive price. I picked up mine with stainless steel and a pepper laminate stock in .243 for $630, and I know some dealers can get them in for even less. If you opted for the same gun but with blued steel and the nutmeg stock instead, you should be able to get onto it for less than $600. It's a much better deal than the Weatheryby Vanguard IMO.

http://legacysports.com/products/howa/howa_varmsup.html

varmintsgrudge

I was origionally going to get the howa but I found the weatherby for just a little bit more and it has the sub MOA guarentee. I like the look of theweatherby stock more anyway, but thats just me. now if the "sub MOA guarentee"isnt really worth the extra money then I will get the howa like I orrigionally planned on.

wyotimberghost

My Howa shoots about 1MOA with the cheapest 80 grain soft points I can find. I have no doubt that it will shoot sub-MOA with premium ammo. I'm anxious to see how it does once I start shooting handloads. I personally like the look and feel of wood to synthetic, and laminate is a good compromise of the look/feel of wood and the climate resistance of synthetic. But if your heart is set on the Weatherby Vanguard then don't hesitate to buy it. You don't want to have any regrets about your purchase later on.

varmintsgrudge

I dont think I can go wrong with either one ,and the price wasnt that different so the weatherby it is. I figure if I shootsome good ammo throung it I will have an excepionally accurate rifle. any thought on using an H&R varmint rifle in .243, maybe a .22-250for coyotes and other varmints at longer range? I found a place that sells this rifle for 275.00, then I could put a bushnell on it and have a good gun for about 450 bucks or so. for now I will just be worried about the weatherby.