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coloradoprohunter 08-21-2007 09:04 PM

QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
i jsut bought a Marlin 881 .22 w/ a bull barrel w/ microgrooves. a deer scope. and a stock w/ a cheekrest for $130 dollars. i took it to the range 2day and got 1/8" groups at 50 yards and 1/4" groups at 100 yards. also i shot it at 200 yards and got 1/2" groups. PRETTY FRIKIN CRAZY. i just bought it at a local gunshop and i cant believe how frikin accurate it is. it looks about 10 years old and is in NRA fair condition. but hte accuracy is crazy. if ur .22LR hutnign gun shoots better than mine plz tell me because i dont want to look stupid if i tell my story to my friends and they say it sux. thx

coolbrze0 08-22-2007 05:39 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
That's the best I've ever heard of, I'm sure some match grade .22s shoot great, but that's d*mn good...

KansasHunter5 08-22-2007 06:48 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Bull****...sorry to offend you, but bull****.

PA Bow/Flinter 08-22-2007 07:15 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Yeah, I'd say thats pretty good.

Any pics of the targets?

diehardhunter 08-22-2007 08:45 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Thats the best ive ever heard of any .22 shooting. I can shoot 1/4 in. groups at 50 but never shot farther than that. If I where you I would start shooting competition with that gun.

Die Hard

25 Days!

TheformerLives 08-22-2007 11:17 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
What kind of cartridges are you shooting? Brand, grain, hollow-point etc....?

Because my .22 is my small game gun I hunt with I think..40 grain hollow-points??? Yeah, I'm almost sure. Anyways I dont shoot longer than 50 yards and I havn't missed a squirrel yet. Some say hollow-points wander but not in my experience.

If your gun shoots that gun having just bought it then see if you can tweak it a little and close those groups down a little bit. If you shoot 10 times I want to only see one hole! lol

npaden 08-22-2007 07:33 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Sounds pretty unbelievable to me.

Howler 08-22-2007 08:07 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
How much drop did you have a 150 yards and 200 yards?

coloradoprohunter 08-22-2007 08:33 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
it sounds pretty good. i will try to borrow someons digital camera because i got an AOL kit w/ a crappya** one and everything is blurry. i will try 2 get the pics up ASAP. idk how much drop i had because it was a scope that had elevation set to 300 which shoots deadon at50yds and at 150 yds it was 650 at dead on. i guess it might drop like sumwhere around 16-22 inches if sighted at 50. I was using federal's 550 value pack of GAME SHOK COPPER PLATED HP at 38gr and shoots 1260fps.

KansasHunter5 08-23-2007 01:06 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I'm still gonna call Bull$hit on this one. Haha federal bulk. Tell ya what, send me a video of you shooting the groups and if you can shoot even an inch at 200 with that setup i'll cut out my left one and give it to ya. Plain ole' BS. Get a life kid and go shoot your gun instead of coming here and claiming stuff you cant and wont prove.

kdvollmer 08-23-2007 03:04 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I have to agree with Kansas here. 1/4 inch at 100 is bout near impossible for most tactical rifle built for that shooting MATCH GRADE ammo designed for accuracy. ANd the to say it will shoot 1/2 inch at 200. You are talking a 1/4 minute angle gun there. I don't know too many companies that will even try to make that claim, let alone that will do it consistantly. I've been to the Army Sniper School, so I guess I shoot fairly well, and even with the best equipment out there, those groups are near impossible at 200 for MOST people with a good gun, let alone a .22 Cal.
And a little off this post here, but I am pretty sure that I saw you post that you killed squirrels at 300 yds with this Rifle. YEAH RIGHT!!!!! You tell me that you do it with a .270, .308, .300 Win Mag, .338 LM I might believe it. MIGHT

longrifle1000 08-23-2007 09:32 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
The only way you got a 1/4" group at 150 yards with that rig is if you only shot a 1 shot group. I think you are confusing feet and inches.

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 09:42 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
herees the pics


coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 09:43 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
this at 200 yards today 1" groups

Howler 08-23-2007 10:25 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
OK, I gotta know, and don't tell us "deer scope" because that don't mean diddly, What kind of scope, make,power, and type of reticle, is on the rifle?

longrifle1000 08-23-2007 11:40 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Pics do not prove anything. Below, you will find a pic of one of my targets that was shot with my Savage 17HMR at a distance of 250 yards.









Actually, it was shot at 50 yards. Just because you posted a pic doesn't prove that it was at the stated distance.



this at 200 yards today 1" groups
What happened to the 1/2" at 200 you were originally claiming? Doesn't really matter because I don't believe you shot a 1" group at 200 yards either.

longrifle1000 08-23-2007 12:04 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

herees the pics


And that is not a 1" group. The holes will be close to .22" in diameter. Therefore, with a horizontal string (such as yours) you could get 4 in a row and be sub inch. I count 8 in the middle string. Even though they are not perfectly edge to edge, they are pretty close. That group is closer to 2", and it still does not prove distance.

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 01:14 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
its a BUSHNELL 3X-9X40mm and it has a regular crosshair reticle

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 01:24 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
my 1/2 groups came from a hot barrel but the 1 inch came from a cold one. learn to count longrifle1000!kjkk. thats5 1/2 .22s in diameter. idc how many bullets are in the group across its 5 1/2 .22 bullets. u suk at counting. those other ones were wen i was shooting of half a rest.

longrifle1000 08-23-2007 02:01 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

my 1/2 groups came from a hot barrel but the 1 inch came from a cold one. learn to count longrifle1000!kjkk. thats5 1/2 .22s in diameter. idc how many bullets are in the group across its 5 1/2 .22 bullets. u suk at counting. those other ones were wen i was shooting of half a rest.
5 1/2????/ Bwahahahahahah


You suck at spelling, AND lieing!

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 02:06 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
yea right lr1000! i kno wat i speak of and i have 7 witnesses to it. and all 7 had spotters so they knew wat was going on atthe other end. HAHA

longrifle1000 08-23-2007 02:36 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

yea right lr1000! i kno wat i speak of and i have 7 witnesses to it. and all 7 had spotters so they knew wat was going on atthe other end. HAHA

Yeah, OK. The fact still remains that you did not shoot a 1/2" group at 200 yards with that gun/ammo. Your just ticked that people are calling you on a blatant lie.

I routinely work the 200 yard rimfire competitions at our local club. I have personally witnessed 2 sub inch groups at that distance. They were not 1/2", but closer to 3/4", and were fired with match rifles, with match chambers, shooting match ammo. And out of all the matches I have worked, it has only happened twice. Ammo variances alone would insure a much larger group at that distance.

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 02:53 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
my dad is was a witness to the 1/4 inch group at 150. also today i was shooiting 3/16" at 75yds. i went out on the range today and only got 5/8" at 150becaues of lead buildup and 1" at 200.

Howler 08-23-2007 03:06 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

idk how much drop i had because it was a scope that had elevation set to 300 which shoots deadon at50yds and at 150 yds it was 650 at dead on. i guess it might drop like sumwhere around 16-22 inches if sighted at 50
So I guess I'm still confused. How are you hitting the bullseye at 300 yards and be dead on a 50 yards when there is around 20" of drop! If you're trying to tell us that you're holding over the bullseye about 20" and putting a group like that in the bullseye, then you're blowing smoke for sure. The rifle can't be zero'd for 50 yards and also at 300 yards at the same time.And that scope doesn't allow for adjustments for different yardages, without being sighted in for each yardage.
Something is really not adding up.

coloradoprohunter 08-23-2007 03:41 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
no, the number 300 and 650 are elevatino settings. if u get hte right rifle for it. 300 will shot 300yards and 650 will shoot 650yards. at 300 i hit center at 50. but at 650 the elevations scope lense went higher and makes it aim higher so i can hit 150yds.

kdvollmer 08-23-2007 10:34 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

no, the number 300 and 650 are elevatino settings. if u get hte right rifle for it. 300 will shot 300yards and 650 will shoot 650yards. at 300 i hit center at 50. but at 650 the elevations scope lense went higher and makes it aim higher so i can hit 150yds.

OK colorado, sure, the numbers are eleveation settings...for the right rifle. Only thing is, that I have never heard of a company making a BDC, (you do know what that stands for right) for a .22 Cal. Generally, those "elevation Settings" are for common tactical rilfe calibers, and a few common huning calibers.
You are trying to BS the wrong group here. MY LIFE DEPENDS ON KNOWING THIS STUFF. THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.Read my previous post.
I have to agree with longrifle1000 on your counting. I count 8 holes in the middle of your target too.What about the 2 flyers above that. and the onething that looks like another flier out to theleft. I mean sure, I could get a 1/4 inch group out of that too, IF I TOOK THE 2-3 ROUNDS CLOSEST TOGETHER. I COUNT A TOTAL OF AT LEAST 10 HOLES IN THAT TARGET. COUNT YOUR GROUP FOR THE WHOLE 10, AND NOT JUST THE 3 CLOSEST IN THE MIDDLE. And your whole hot barrel, cold barrel arguement. you have to shoot ALOT of .22 to heat up a barrel to make a difference. when I say ALOT. I am talking about a couple hundred rounds, to make that barrel hot to touch, and even then, that should really only affect up and down the most. Your group, indicates that you have trouble with your trigger squeeze. You jerk the trigger a little. Up and down, is breath control, left and right is generally trigger jerk.

1/2 inch at 200 yds and a .22 Caliber.....YEAH RIGHT.


Rammer 08-26-2007 02:48 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I'm not only throwing the bullchit flag, I'm also waving the bullchit banner!

Not possible with a 22 long rifle.

coloradoprohunter 08-26-2007 02:56 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
GO HOME!

Rammer 08-26-2007 02:57 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I am at home, thank you for worrying though ;)

Let me ask one question, how old are you?


coloradoprohunter 08-26-2007 03:02 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
y do u want 2 kno?

Rammer 08-26-2007 03:03 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Because this sounds like a story from a 10 year old.

coloradoprohunter 08-26-2007 03:06 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
well it is not. and i will tell u my age. here is a hint. i said hello to a fireman when i was 11

moose1915 08-26-2007 05:53 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

well it is not. and i will tell u my age. here is a hint. i said hello to a fireman when i was 11
WHAT????????? random statement of the month!

PA Bow/Flinter 08-26-2007 06:31 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I posted at the beginning of this convo just asking for pics because although I didn't believe you, I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt until proven or admitted otherwise.

Well, I gave you your shot to prove validity and (pardon the pun) you shot holes through your 'proof.' And just for the record, the holes you shot through your own arguement....it wasn't a quarter inch group.Not only did you prove that the claimed groups you shot weren't true, you also presented yourself in a manner that will infinitly hinder you from offering credible advice on this website.

biscuit jake 08-26-2007 07:48 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Oh what the heck. I am ok with that group. Now go bag some game and get 'er cookin in the pot! For me, 22's mean fried rabbit!

KansasHunter5 08-27-2007 05:53 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
Oh...I see. His dad is a fireman and he said hi to him last night when he was tucked in to bed.

Sooo...grand total 11.

I am willing to give you a fresh start kid. No need to tell us you were lying, no need to apologize. Just no more BS threads andtry to know what you are talking about before you do so. I'm not beyond embellishing a story every now and again, but its better between friends than trying to impress a stranger on the net.


Chris_H 08-27-2007 07:32 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I don't know about that... 1/4 ich group at 150 yards. That sounds like a semi auto .270 to me...

BTW...


ORIGINAL: coloradoprohunter

well it is not. and i will tell u my age. here is a hint. i said hello to a fireman when i was 11

y do u want 2 kno?

GO HOME!

yea right lr1000! i kno wat i speak of and i have 7 witnesses to it. and all 7 had spotters so they knew what was going on at the other end HAHA
Grow up. I really hope that you are a little kid or a preteen... because if you're a yound adult like me, you're an emberresment to our name.

Chris_H 08-27-2007 07:36 AM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 

ORIGINAL: longrifle1000

Pics do not prove anything. Below, you will find a pic of one of my targets that was shot with my Savage 17HMR at a distance of 250 yards.









Actually, it was shot at 50 yards. Just because you posted a pic doesn't prove that it was at the stated distance.



this at 200 yards today 1" groups
What happened to the 1/2" at 200 you were originally claiming? Doesn't really matter because I don't believe you shot a 1" group at 200 yards either.
exactly


coloradoprohunter 08-27-2007 12:59 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
hey, i the electronic caliper i am using is broke as of today and i was probably measuring wrong because i have used it so many times. sry bout that. but i went out today at 100ydsw/ a dirty barrel and got 2" groups. is that good?

Chris_H 08-27-2007 01:42 PM

RE: QUARTER INCH GROUPS W/ .22 at 150 yards?
 
I'm not necesserily sure that I believe that either... you said that you had 7 spotters to back you up... if they had half a brain they would have known the yardage and group sizes. And plus, I'm not saying that it's not possible, but I don't really believe 2 inch groups at 100 yards either.

You lie! LIE! LIAR!

Just admit that you were wrong... don't try to make up something that seems a little more believable but is still untrue (unbelievable/ a lie)


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