rabbit
 

i know where a rabbit lives but everytime i go down there hes gone. should i go early morning late evening when?

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Go in the afternoon when the sun is setting 5:00-7:00 p.m, thats when I hunt rabbits all the time, they only come out in cooler conditions, so even morning would be fine, as long as you wake up around 5:00 A.M. I would choose in the afternoon so you dont have to wake up early.

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would a pellet gun be sufficient?

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Geterdun2- If your asking if a Pellet Gun can kill a Rabbit, it most certainly can. Get within 20-30 feet of the Rabbit, and a well placed shot can eithier stun it and cause it to bleed and diasable its escape, or instantly kill it. I use a 30# Youth Bow to kill Rabbits and Squirrels, so im not used to shooting and hunting with a Pellet gun, but I know if I use soft tiped bullet points and I kill and stun the Rabbits, a pellet gun can easily do the same with more penetration then a rounded tiped field point. But with a razor sharp broad head attached to my arrows fired by mybow, thats a different story in terms of "which weapon has more power". I think we all know the answer to that question.;););)

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Actually, at 120 fps and assuming a 350 grain arrow with bh, your bow has about 12.5 fpe and a crosman quest w/ 14-grain pellets gets almost 21 fpe.Your bow is more lethal, but the pellets have more raw power.

Just wanted to clear that up to prevent any messy flame wars.

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Whats bh and FPE? Yeah your right but I don't really care about that, I was messing around, as long as my bow kills im ok. Which it does. My friend Adam owns an Air Rifle, im not shure what type but I know it pumps 10 times and shoots at 700 FPS. He shot at 25 feet with his rifle into a centimeter thick inch wood, and the pellet only penetrated through it 2 out of 20 times he shot. When it was my turn I grabbed my bow with Aluminum arrows (this was 2 weeks ago) with field points and each time out of 20 shots my arrows penetrated through and sometimes passed 4 or 5 inches through. My bow maybe slow, but it packs a punch, more than my friends Air Rifle. Now I don't know what type of pellet gun this guy owns so I can't really say anything. Yeah the power and shock of a Pellet gun is devastating, but the penetrating round is just to small and light compared to an arrow at close range. I would rather get shot with a Pellet gun than a bow, obviously becasue the bow would kill you (depending on the area the arrow penetrates like the heart or lungs). Im not being a Troll or trying to start anything, but just trying to prove my point. The Pellet gun owns in speed, but for me, the bow is more powerful and lethal (like you said). It's like an RPG, slow but deadly. Anyway today hurt. I didn't use finger tabs (whatever there called) when shooting my bow today. I wanted to practice for hunting.

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BH stands for Broadhead

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Oh. Then what does FPE stand for?

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Foot-pound energy, standard measure for projectile weapons.

Basic equation:
velocity(in fps)*velocity(in fps) / 64.32 * weight(in pounds)= fpe
^
twice constant
for gravity

For reference: 1 lb.= 6300 grains.

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So with the FPE, is my bow's energy weak, meduim, or extreme?.

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Extraordinarily weak(I'm not trying to be mean): My bow gets 52 fpe(240 fps, 367-grain arrow), and most adults' compounds get 70-80 fpe.

Double the velocity, quadruplethe energy.
Double projectile weight while velocity is constant, double the energy.

4-5 FPE are all that are needed to kill rabbit, but that's on impact, what I calculated is when your arrow leaves your bow.

Firearms have far more energy, .222 rem about 1000-1100 FPEup to .50 BMG with 16000 FPE. Standing within 2 metres of the impact areof the .50 I just mentioned is certain death.

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Ok. Oh well. I don't mind, its killed me stuff.

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And I still wouldn't want to get hit with my arrows.

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Neither would I.

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I do just fine with my pellet gun. I got a gamo shadow sport which gives ya 1200 feet per second (fps). ive gotten a rabbit at 40 plus yards. i can shoot through an archery cube and penetrate through wood also. i think its easier to shoot with pellets just in case you miss with an arrow n loose it.

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Brod man,
depending on the pellet gun it can be effective for killing rabbits. I have killed amny in my day with mine. A .22 would be more effective for killing them, but depending on where you are hunting at, might not be a better choice.

Good luck with the cotton tails.



Correction: there are 7000 grains in a pound.

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WTF?? Damn that book. It said it was NRA-approved, they f*cked up.

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would my bow still be affective if a burgular came in my house, if my arrows had broadheads on it? 12.5 fpe should be enogh to seroiusly wound someboday or even cause death if they can't stop the bleeding or get the arrow out. and by then i would set aniother arrow on the string and pound aniother arrow into the bad dude, and another until he is down. im very prtective of my family and we do not own any other weapon to protect our family, and when my dad is gone on duty im the only man in the house.

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You beat me to it.

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Ahhhhhhh, sorry, I love combat...........:D:D:D

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will a 12.5# bow kill a rabbit at like 10 yards?

im gonna get'em in the morning.(or atleast try)

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12.5#? You're kidding, right?

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And I thought my draw weight was light, wow.............

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ive got a bigger bow thats just my minnie one.

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I wouldn't use that to put down a rabbit at point blank. Your slingshot has more power.

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i set a snare there this morning to see if he still lives there. i was setting it and it started pouring down the rain. im still soaked.

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i checked my snare this morning........empty, but it did look like it had been moved so i reset it in a good spot so well see what happens. ill check it after school tommorow.[:'(]

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USE A GUN

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Guns are to easy. With guns you just pick the Rabbit off at 70 yards. With a cheap fiberglass bow and Carbon arrows with broadheads, try hitting them at 20 feet without spooking them. Oh and the arrows travel only about 95 MPH (with my new pinch-and-release) so it would be harder and the Rabbits could dodge the arrow. I say that is skill, not taking the lazy way out and nailing game at long range with some rifle. Im not saying anything bad about rifle hunters, it's just bowhunters like the old ways, the traditional ways that have been around longer than weapons of today. Much harder and you don't have to buy ammumition for it over and over again. It's a challenge, a game. I admit with a rifle it's easier and quicker with hunting but step back and try getting that Rabbit with a bow and arrow, much more fun and oh so qiuet.

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I dont know how yall hunt rabbit, but its different than I do. Me and my cousin use 6 beagles... our season starts in november and ends in march. We get to the hunting spot before the sun comes over the trees. The dogs need moisture to smell the rabbit (the dew on the ground). Rabbit are primarily nocturnal; the dogs can smell where the rabbit was that night. The dog will trail the rabbit, jump the rabbit, and then you kill the rabbit as you intercept it. If you miss the first time, just stay there. A rabbit ALWAYS makes a complete circle and comes back around.

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it takes just as much skill to rifle hunt as it does to bow hunt. And I don't know anyone who uses rifles to hunt rabbit... down here we all use shotguns. And more than likely the rabbit is goin to come speeding by 5-20 feet beside you on a trail thats only a couple feet/yards wide. Tell me it doesnt take skill to shoot a rabbit in less than a second.

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Aim Rifle/Shotgun, pull trigger, target dies.............. Raise bow, set arrow on string, draw back, hold, release.......way more to do than a gun:D:D:D

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Sorry that you think that it is that simple. Maybe at a range that you can effectifly use a pellet gun. There is SO much more to shooting that that. Hmm, sight picture, breathing, steady position, trigger squeeze.
Lets see:

1) cycle bolt (sounds like set arrow on string) no skill involved for either
2) shoulder firearm (sounds alot like "raise bow" )
3) take aim ( i didn't see that one up there, but I am sure you have to do that too)
3)proper breath control and positionbefore the shot ( kinda like your hold)
4) SQUEEZE the trigger ( hmm, kind of like release the arrow) if you don't squeeze the trigger, and you jerk it, you will probably miss, or wound your game. I am sure that is similar to the fundamentals for releaseing your arrow. If you screw up one aspect of that, you might not hit your target, or just wound it.

Sounds like just about as many things that you have to do right with a rifle as a BOW. Don't confuse yourself into thinking that it is as easy as aim and pull the trigger. Ifit were that easy, there would be no missed shots with gun hunting, there would be no wounded or lost gameeither.
I knowthat there is a certain ammount of skill needed for bow hunting, as Iused to shoot alot of archery. However, I can say, there is just as much skill involved in rifle hunting too.

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who cares? and really its all the same but i got news for yah. guns have a cleaner kill even if its not a good shot. the bullet hits and creates shock wich almost always kills the animal on contact except big game cause they never give up.

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Ok, I give up. But let me say one more thing, Primitive and the Oldways is not the lazy ways.......modern ways just is lazy.......you know thats true......deep down...... guns are quicker and betterbut they are just evolving, not like the old bow of our ancestors which has been around since the beggining of time like I already said. A bow is more primitive and is a great hunting tool if properlly placed in the hands of a man with the mind of not giving up, taking the hard way even if it means getting only one kill in one week. A deep, dark, weapon placed underneath rock , trees , metal , and time.........when you bring a modern whitemans weapon into the woods, the trees cry and everything goes bad becasue it's out of place and nature was disturbed, and when the amazingly and ridicuolosly loud bang and crack from a "metal projectile weapon" is echoed throughout the woods, it's a great distrubence. I can see Guns being used in Military since they are so affective and way more lethal than the bow, but thats when it in the city of Iraq or wherever the next war might be. But in the woods it affects the peacefullness of everything, it's so out of place if a gun is there. There ain't no metal in Nature, or the forest, there isn't a solid piece of steel lying in the dirt next to an Oak tree to be made into a gun. Would you try building a gun in a survival situation if all you have is a knife?. Basically if you don't understand me becasue ofyour anger your planning to use to protect guns and how better they are to bows, all im saying is bows have there better things about them than guns, and guns have better things then bows. But the one big difference is that one of those is primitive........and primitive ways aint no lazy.......

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Didn't your kindergarten teacher tell you your not suppose to eat the glue?:eek:

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I don't know. I mean, maybe you know better since your in special ed class buddy:eek::eek::(:([:-][:-]:D:D

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QUIET.

you guys better stop or youll both be banned. Know i had a question about a rabbit and i dont care about eating glue in kindergarten, or special ed ok i know youve answered as best you can but a lot of people visit this forum and who wants to join a forum where all the people do is argue. no i dont care who started it im finishing it. now can we all just be friends and you dont have to post yes. just agree to disagree about the gun bow issue ok. thank you.

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CALM DOWN Brod,

Try and breath a little. Nobody is bashing anyone and we arent going to get band for saying things like "eating glue" and "special-ed class".[8D] Its all in fun and games, try to lighten up a little. Now, I am sorry we got off your topic, but dont let it ruin your day.:( I'm not twelve, so please don't tell me to do something, your not my mommy;)

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ok sorry i went crazy but all the arguing is driving me crazy. i dont know why but almost everthing wolfwithbow does somebody dogs him. leave him alone hes a good guy, you can give constructive critisism, but dont make him get ANGRY. hes got som good info. some of its crazy but its mostly good. sorry i had to go off on you. i just dont want anybody to leave because they dont feel welcomed or dont feel they belong. please argue on your on threads not mine. thanks in advance.