RE: coyote hunter problems
 

If you got such a hard on about this just call the C.O. and have him out their to catch the "trespassers".

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That would be fair to me as I see it you are the land owner and I have to have respect for your land as well as your rights to. I think that there has to be some sort of medium that all must work together on to ensure we can retain our hunting rights for generations to come.

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Sorry, I didn't intend to have a hard-on. I'm just curious how different people would handle this scenario. didn't mean to put anyone on the spot. But, when people get on the defencive about a question like this it kinda makes a me wonder if they might have more of a tendencyto consider B. ( shoot coyote, get dog, go home)again, I would like to apologize if it appears that I have a hard-on.
Stevie

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I'm not sure if it is still in effect but In MN if there is a dog "chasing" deer it is legal to shot After the first of the year. I'm not sure how long you can do that but hey, If there isn't a hunter within site of the dog let the lead fly..

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I may have a solution to all of this, andthat canpleaseall sides. And possiblycreat more revenue for the local farmers .
Please hear me out.

Places like texas, have large expanses of land that are fenced, where you can go and pay to hunt Deer, Elk, Turkey, Hogs etc. I live in rural Minnesota where it use to be alot of dairy, its mostly crop farming now. If say a dozen farmers gottogether and fenced there properties all together.. Started raiseing coyotes, fox, lynx and bobcat. And thenonly charge a guyfor whatHe/She shoots. This would help create more revenue for farmers. And there business could be run year around, it would also solve the trespasser problem. Thehunting season would never have to end, and your odds of harvesting more game would increase dramaticaly. everyone wins

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OK Stevie, I was with you until that last post. You're on your own now. :D

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Wow, the discussion has suddenly gotten very abstract and full of hypothetical twists and turns. But, that's par for the course here. Every thread on this site criticizing dog hunting of any kind generally starts out with maybe one actual example of a legitimate problem caused by dog hunting, but then gets silly.

In my neck of the woods, there actually is a fenced reserve where people can run foxes and coyotes with dogs. So, i guess that some folks enjoy chasing coyotes within a 200 acre enclosure. But, that doesn't really address the issue of coyotes as a free-ranging nuisance which is why the vast majority of landowers in my area don't get their panties in a wad if several coyote dogs take two minutes to cut across their south 40.

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Lanse couche couche

You have stated that all these scenerios are not likely to happen. Can you give an example of what typically does happen? I have no idea, just curious. Do you live in an area that is mostly public land, and/or your land and when your dogs are running theymay run across someone elses land and back onto public land? Or is most of the land private and therefore the dogs are running through one person's land and then through another person's land, etc.? If the latter, is it ok with pretty much all the landowners that a person cut through their land when on a hunt?

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Stevie, I see the point you're trying to make, and if you read some of my posts on this topic you'll see my opinion, but you cant ask a question in the way you did and get straightfoward answers. There aren't only 2 ways to answer that question.

Raising coyotes in a fenced in area for people to shoot isn't a good resolution. We want less out there, not more. Most groups I know of don't run dogs for the sheer sport of it, they do it to kill lots of coyotes. And that's fine by me, go where ever you need to kill the coyotes, but just wait untill after the other seasons close and most of these problems go away.

I hate coyotes just as much as anyone, I kill everyone I can, but it rubs me the wrong way when dogs that dont have permission come running like a bull with it's hair on fire through private ground when I'mbow hunting with a month and a half left in the season, and then the handler drives overwet fields to ask me if I saw where they went.

RE: coyote hunter problems
 

Cascade,

In my personal experience, you hear some barking, then a pack of dogs comes running like hell thru that specific spot and are out of earshot in a few minutes. Any shooting occurs along a point in the road where the hunters cut off the coyote. Others don't even use guns. They let the regular hounds tire the coyote out somewhat, then when it goes across a very large clear area, they will turn lose greyhounds to quickly run it down and drop it until the other dogs get there to finish it off. In both scenarios, the hunters have some choice in terms of exactly where the coyote will be killed. But, obviously they can't control where the dogs run while chasing the coyote and therein lies the problem.

The only firsthand knowledge that i have of coyote dogs influencing a deer hunt was when my friend had about two dozen deer flushed right toward his stand by coyote dogs. I don't doubt that occasionally coyote hunters might ruin a deer hunt, but I also think that some deer hunters (my father for example) will use any dog barking within a mile of their stand as an excuse for not bagging a deer that day.