"Leupold are best for price"? Not sure I agree with that statement.

I know I don't agree with it.

Well guys thanks for all of the advice. I went to Bass Pro today and ended up getting 2 Nikons. I got a Prostaff 3x9x50 for my 270 and my fiance picked out the Nikon Buckmaster 3x9x40 for her 243.. Hopefully these two will work out. Noth of these Nikons looked much clearer than any of the leupolds i looked at. I am going to shoot both of them this week so we'll see how they do.

You probably got a pretty good scope. I've never used Nikons but I wouldn't hesitate too either. Infact when I got the Burris had I not found the deal on the Burris I may very well have ended up with a Nikon.

Your fiance is a obviously good judge... the Buckmasters is a very decent scope for the money! IMO, it's better than the Prostaff. They both should serve the intended purpose very well. Good luck.

I have posted this on quite a few differant threads and sites but its hard facts so here it is again. I did a little research on entry level scopes for a guy($200 range) and came up with these specs. these are all 3x9x40

Burris Fullfield II
eye relief-3.1"-3.8"
light transmission- 95%
MOA adjustments- 1/4" @100 yards max adjustment 50
actual maximum magnification- 9x
lifetime warranty
manufactured in both the USA and Philipines(depends on demand)

Nikon Buckmaster
eye relief- 3.6"
light transmission- 92%
MOA adjustments- 1/4" @100 yards max adjustment 80
actual maximum magnification- 9x
lifetime warranty
manufatured somewhere in asia

Leupold rifleman
eye relief- 3.7"
light transmission- 82%
MOA adjustments- 1/2"@100yards max adjustment 56 elevation 52 windage
lifetime warranty
manufactured in USA

The way I see it the Leupold doesnt even fit into the same class even though it costs the same amount. The only reason i can think of is the whole made in USA thing but IMO that is crap. I am pretty sure thats why GM and Chrysler just had to take a bail out from government and are still on a pretty slippery slope. It just doesnt make sense to me an inferior product for the same price its just stupid.

I'd classify the Leupold Rifleman as a P.O.S. and would not own one.

if i can remeber correctly you have to buy the VX-II or VX-III to match the performance of the burris fullfield II or the buckmaster. once again i believe they are over priced and over rated.