.45-70
04-10-2005, 10:34 PM
#1
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Bar Harbor ME USA
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.45-70
I just added a .45-70 to my collection and am in the process of getting the items to reload for it. It's a straight wall case ... are there carbide dies available for it? Since it's a straight wall case will I need to trim them? I've shot a lot of pistol and have never trimmed one yet (.38 Spec, .357 mag, .44 mag). Also what powders do you find work the best? Thanks in advance.
04-11-2005, 08:58 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NW Ohio , 5 min from Ottawa National / Magee Marsh
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RE: .45-70
There are no carbide dies that I know of for the 45/70.
The 45/70 is not a thru straight wall like 357 mag there is .012 taper per side or .024 total .
Not a lot ,but enough to rule out carbide die.
Yes you have to trim the cases ,You should be trimmimg the 44 mag cases if you want accurey in moderate to hot loads ,depending on the load my 44 case need to be trimed every reload.
As for powder ,what pressure level are you going to load to ( what gun ) Trap door, Marlin or Ruger #1 ??
What bullet cast or jacketed ??
For cast bullet and trap door loads AA 5744 is hard to beat
Also RL-7
IMR 3031
For Marlin loads
RL-7
IMR 3031
IMR 4198
Hope this can help
Johnch
The 45/70 is not a thru straight wall like 357 mag there is .012 taper per side or .024 total .
Not a lot ,but enough to rule out carbide die.
Yes you have to trim the cases ,You should be trimmimg the 44 mag cases if you want accurey in moderate to hot loads ,depending on the load my 44 case need to be trimed every reload.
As for powder ,what pressure level are you going to load to ( what gun ) Trap door, Marlin or Ruger #1 ??
What bullet cast or jacketed ??
For cast bullet and trap door loads AA 5744 is hard to beat
Also RL-7
IMR 3031
For Marlin loads
RL-7
IMR 3031
IMR 4198
Hope this can help
Johnch
04-11-2005, 11:11 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
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RE: .45-70
I usually trim every case I load; I want everything to be uniform. When necking-up .300 Wby. Mag. to .340 Wby. Mag., some times the case will fall below specification, so I will not trim them, but after the case has been fire formed, they usually fall into or out of specification thus meriting triming. Good luck.
04-12-2005, 09:41 AM
#7
Fork Horn
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Location: Bar Harbor ME USA
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RE: .45-70
Thanks for the help I knew I'd get some good straight answers here. I forgot to mention it's a NEF Handi rifle I doubt I'll go much beyond the mid range of the Marlin loads as I'm using it as a deer/bear gun.
04-13-2005, 03:22 PM
#8
Boone & Crockett
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Location: Wall SD USA & Jamestown ND
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RE: .45-70
Did you get the 22 inch Handi Rifle or the Buffalo Classic ? I have both right now. I like the 350 Grain Hornady RN for Black Bear or Moose. Fro deer the 300 grain Hornady is a good one. I have been wanting to try the Nosler Partition as well. I have heard nothing but good things about them.
04-15-2005, 10:40 PM
#10
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wall SD USA & Jamestown ND
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RE: .45-70
If you want a pretty mild load to shoot in the NEF. Try 13.0 grains of Unique with a Magnum LG rifle primer. I use a 405 grain cast bullet with this load. It chronographs about 1100 fps and is consistant and accurate. You don't need a filler or buffer with this load. I didn't believe it would work with the small powder chare but it does. Makes a good plinking or medium game load.
