who will make custom bullets
 

i am looking for someone who will only make the bullet heads
for a 8mm.
bullet will be made from billet alloy or billet steel NO lead NO copper
type of bullet hollow point or military

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

Any machinist in your area should be able to be contracted to do it. But if you not using lead or copper or any other material of that malloiblity, you sure wouldn't be able to shoot it in anything with rifling. It would build pressure so quick, and would give any.

Are you saying armor piercing? like to cut off the head of a bullet and transplant it? Its none of my business, I believe the ATF would have issues with that, kinda like dum dums or liquid tephlon coated bullets. I would tread a tad lightly on contacting reputable bullet makers wanting such.

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I think making bullets out of any metal besides copper, lead or other materials of similar hardness would be illegal. But if you are a BATFE agent trolling here, you would already know that.;)

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

Armor piercing rounds are not one bit illegal. You can buy API 50 BMG rounds just about any where. You may need some kind of license to manufacture them though????????

However if you do not have a copper jacket over that steel core you will blow up your rifle.

Like Biccountry said any machine shop with a CNC machine would be able to make these bullets but you would still need to have a copper jacket formed to the steel core.

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The Military has sold literally millions of rounds of armor piercing ammo for the .308 and .30-06 and maybe even the .223 as well.....I've not looked but it's likely that AP rounds are also available for the 8MM Mauser too.

I think you need a lot of coaching to pull off this bullet making trick and I doubt seriously that it's illegal at all.....especially if you don't try to sell them.

I'm not having any luck trying to guess what purpose you have but look for off the shelf AP bullets in 8MM. If you're unfortunate enough to find some to make them for you, I sure hope he knows what he's doing.

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No, its illegal to manufacture NEW AP ammo for the civillian market. The law is much like the magazine limit law- you can buy, sell, and use hi cap magazines, but its a felony to make a hi-cap magazine unless its for the military or stamped for "law enforcement only" which is illegal for a non LEO to possess.
There is alot of .50 bmg AP and incediary on the market- perfectly legal.
30-06 AP ammo isn't too hard to find, I know of a source of pulled 30-06 AP bullets, all perfectly legal.
Boatloads of 7.62x39 AP and 8x57 steel core surplus stuff out there.
If you were to take the pulled 30-06 bullets and load them into anything other than 30-06, you might be treading into a very dark gray area of the law, but then again noone is going to know unless you tell someone about it.

Making your own AP bullets becomes a felony the moment you load them into a cartridge.

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/legal/armor.htm

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

thank you all for your words.

but i am not in the usa. so your laws don't a ply to me.

but happying hunting all

P.S can you buy DU rounds for 8mm

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

Then how in the world can a bunch of americans help you find what you are looking for? Why would you need these sort of things? You ask questions, and we try to help, but its very difficult to help you if you don't give much info.

RE: who will make custom bullets
 

There are a number of bullets in the world that have mild steel jackets and lead cores. Most are plated with something like cupronickel or copper to prevent rust, and the lead core gives enough for the mild steel to talke the rifleing with no excessive pressures, and little barrel wear. However, I believe a SOLID, groove-diameter STEEL bullet would be something else again! Engraving such a thing would be very difficult, probably causing excessive pressures, and in all probability damaging the bore. I would not attempt such a thing. Armor-piercing bullets have tungsten cores, which are very hard. But these cores are surrounded by a lead plug and a gilding metal jacket. The ones I've seen taken from M2 ball AP bullets appear to be about .25 caliber or so, and NEVER TOUCH the bore of the rifle they're fired in!

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Who would need armor piercing rounds anyway other then the military or law enforcment or anyone intending to pierce armour. Here in AZ a local gun store has tons of old surplus ammo mostly steel core i guess is classified as AP ammo but its sold dirt cheap since most of it is corrosive or mildly corrosive I don't mind using mildly corrosive ammo when I'm done shooting I just swab the barrel with some hoppes number 9 and spray the bolt with rem oil. They sell some czech 7.62x54 Rimmed ( Not russian) from the 60's which is mild steel core copper jacket which when originally manufactured was never intended to be AP but the "EXPERTS" with the BATF classified it as AP.
But anyway the stuff shoots great out of my mosin nagant prints 2 inch groups at 100 yards with open sights the best part is its like 2 dollars a box of 20

Yeah its legal to own, sell, and shoot. but by law the retailer has to keep record of the sales on it. But aslong as you don't intend to do anything illegal with it you have no worries. untill the BATF decides to ban it altogether. But It is illegal to manufacture, import or export.

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With regards to Federal Law, AP rounds, as defined to be regulated, are specified as Hand Gun bullets. Rifle rounds are exempt, with two exceptions, those being .308 and 7.62x39mm. Someone made a hand gun to shoot them. State laws may ban AP rifle rounds, Conneticut banned them not ong ago.

Many .50 BMG shooters shoot AP because it is cheap (relatively) and it is among the most accurate milsurp projectiles available. The hardened steel cores are lathe turned. Most of it is old, before Tungsten was used.

A solid steel projectile is possible, but highly impractical. In the early days of .50 BMG competition, many competitors shot monolithic solids, CNC turned from a steel/lead alloy (97.5%/2.5% if I recall correctly),called leadloy steel. The small lead content is needed to prevent galling and the alloy machines real nice, too. Most monolithic solids in .50 BMG are now made from bronze, or similar.

Not only that, the bullets are slightly sub-caliber (.502"), except for a driving band at the rear(.511"), a cannon projectile type design. This type of projectile is called a borerider. A borerider chamber has a 2nd throat. The projectile slip fits into this throat when loaded into the rifle. The actual bearing surface is the small driving band at the rear. The forward part of the bullet shank behind the ogive "rides" the bore, with only .001" engraving, compared to the usual .005"(.50 BMG)

Any projectile that you get turned in any volume will need to be done on a CNC machine. To make it worth it, we are talking a big volume. You better have a lot of barrels. You will need them. Unless your barrels are reamed with a 2nd borerider throat, your projectiles will need another driving band up front called a bourrlet. How wide the driving bands? How to load for such a round so it will not blow up? I have not got the slightest idea.