bigchountry, I appreciate the offer. I just got back from the range. I had scoured out the bore with CR10 last night. At 200 yds, the rifle printed four rounds inside 2", which for me, is acceptable for a magnum elk rifle. I was using once fired Remington brass, 180gr TripleShock Barnes bullets, Federal mag primers and 92gr of RL25. The mv is just over 3200fps at 10ft from the muzzle. If I count the first round, which I judged to be a "fouling round" the group is 3". I waited 20mins. between each round, as I had a 22-250 and a 223Rem to play with.

Steve, thats not so much different than I get with my gun. Surprised you able to get to 92gr of RL25. I only get to 90gr and start seeing pressure. This was with the 3 ring designed Triple X instead of the 4. Also surprised your mv is low. At 92gr, I bet my gun would run over 3300fps.

If I was you, I would be dang happy with 2" groups at 200 yards. 180gr triple shock will be the perfect bullet for him.

Bigcountry. Yeah, I am happy with that group. I had another shooter tell me that he gets 1/2" groups at 200 yards with his H-S built 300RUM, but I believe that he has to exaggerate a little, in order to justify what he paid for that puppy. There are, of course, shooters who can get phenominal groups with just about any cartridge/rifle combo, but for the average deer hunter 2" at 200 yards will certainly get the job done. Part of the pleasure of hunting is spending the time at the range in order to know that things are right, so that one does not have to make an excuse come October! Speaking of which, I need to finish cleaning the 300RUM and the 223 and the 22-250!

Im my opinion,one group should never be used to judge a rifles accuracy and all shots should be counted in a group.I take the average of at least five three shot groups to evaluate a load.I shoot three shots one after the other then let the barrel cool completely before firing another group.

Can you load a reduced load w/ the RUM? My gun shoots very well but would be more fun to shoot if I could load it down to play w/.

Avoid reducing loads below the recommended "start" load. The real danger lies in when the amount of propellant is so low that when the cartridge is laid horizontal (in the shooting position), there are two separated amounts of propellant within the case. This, as if one amount of propellant is laying up near the bullet, while the second amount of powder is back near the primer. These two amounts of propellant will then be separated, with only air between. When the propellant nearest the primer is ignited, this ignition must JUMP to the front amount of propellant, up near the bullet. This jump causes greatly increased pressure within the case and has been known to cause catastrophic failure in some actions.

In handloader mag, they list a reduced load as VV-N170 93.5gr with 180gr bullet with velocitys like 2860fps. I have never tried it, but they said it was darn accurate. I know some who do the 90gr of H4891 with 150gr bullets. Doesn't have much recoil.

I've only loaded the Accubond 180gr and the Sierra 165gr HPBT Gameking for my 300UM. The 165's are tack drivers. I've shot out to 300 yards and get a consistant 2"group at that distance. Off a bench, of course. I'm buring 7828 in front of a Rem Mag primer. I haven't been as lucky with the Accubond. Can't seem to get a good accurate load for it. You guys are putting out alot of great info that should help all of us, thank you.

I get iffy results with accubonds. Not sure why either. I get flyers every 5 shot groups that I don't with triple X's, or even nosler partitions or Sierras. this was been with RL25, H1000 and Retumbo.

Hey!!! Where did you learn to spell "Nozzler"????