IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I'm loading the '06 with 4064, generally with bullet weights between 165 and 180 grs. I've been getting load ideas from various handloading sites, along with different manuals. I see a lot of loads with 4350, which I think is a little slower. 4064 drops down (in terms of velocity) in the load tables with heavier bullets. I'd be curious to get your views on these two powders and their best application.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
both will work well for your bullet weights in the .30-06...however, I'd prefer the IMR 4350 of the two.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I like the 4064 for 308's period. But a friend of mine has a 270Win that I load for and the gun only likes 4064. Strange. But I love 4350 for 270 or 3006. I get 150fps more velocity with 4350 and 130gr Sierra gamekings than I do with 4064 out of a 270win.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I've loaded both for an "06". I found some accurate loads with the 4064, but it seemed I could match the accuracy with notably increased velocity with the 4350. It also seemed that the 4350 shot its most accurate loads at near or maximum--something many reloaders like to find for a hunting load. Good luck.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I tried to list all the powders from my Hodgden manual. IMR 4064 was listed at 79. IMR 4350 was listed at 94 with H 4350 at 95. It may be because the 4350 gives the bullet more of a push rather than a slap. From the list, there are 15 powders between them.
Here's the whole list: Fastest to slowest burn rates 1. R-1 Norma 2. N310, Vihtavuori 3. Bullseye, Alliant 4. N312, Vihtavuori 5. Solo 1000, Accurate 6. Clays, Hodgdon 7. Red Dot, Alliant 8. N318, Vihtavuori 9. Hi-Skor 700X, IMR 10. N320, Vihtavuori 11. Green Dot, Alliant 12. International, Hodgdon 13. No. 2, Accurate 14. N321, Vihtavuori 15. N324, Vihtavuori 16. HP-38, Hodgdon 17. W-231, Winchester 18. N325, Vihtavuori 19. N330, Vihtavuori 20. PB, IMR 21. N331, Vihtavuori 22. No. 5, Accurate 23. Unique, Alliant 24. WSL, Winchester 25. Power Pistol, Alliant 26. Universal, Hodgdon 27. SR-7625, IMR 28. W-473AA, Winchester 29. Herco, Alliant 30. N340, Vihtavuori 31. WSF, Winchester 32. HS-6, Hodgdon 33. W-540, Winchester 34. 3N37, Vihtavuori 35. WAP, Winchester 36. Hi-Skor 800-X, IMR 37. N350, Vihtavuori 38. HS-7, Hodgdon 39. W-571, Winchester 40. No. 7, Accurate 41. Blue Dot, Alliant 42. No. 9, Accurate 43. 2400, Alliant 44. N110, Vihtavuori 45. R-123, Norma 46. H-110, Hodgdon 47. W-296, Winchester 48. SR-4759, IMR 49. N120, Vihtavuori 50. XMP-5744, Accurate 51. IMR-4227, IMR 52. N125, Vihtavuori 53. H-4227, Hodgdon 54. N130, Vihtavuori 55. AAC-1680, Accurate 56. W-680, Winchester 57. N132, Vihtavuori 58. N-200, Norma 59. N133, Vihtavuori 60. IMR-4198, IMR 61. H-4198, Hodgdon 62. XMR-2015, Accurate 63. Reloader 7, Alliant 64. N134, Vihtavuori 65. IMR-3031, IMR 66. Benchmark 1, Hodgdon 67. N-201, Norma 68. H-322, Hodgdon 69. Benchmark 2, Hodgdon 70. AAC-2230, Accurate 71. IMR-4895, IMR 72. H-4895, Hodgdon 73. H-335, Hodgdon 74. BL-C(2), Hodgdon 75. AAC-2460, Accurate 76. W-748, Winchester 77. Reloader 12, Alliant 78. N135, Vihtavuori 79. IMR-4064, IMR 80. Varget, Hodgdon 81. AAC-2520, Accurate 82. N-202, Norma 83. XMR-4064, Accurate 84. IMR-4320, IMR 85. N140, Vihtavuori 86. AAC-2700, Accurate 87. Reloader 15, Alliant 88. H-380, Hodgdon 89. N150, Vihtavuori 90. 203-B, Norma 91. W-760, Winchester 92. H-414, Hodgdon 93. N160, Vihtavuori 94. IMR-4350, IMR 95. H-4350, Hodgdon 96. N-204, Norma 97. Reloader 19, Alliant 98. IMR-4831, IMR 99. XMR-3100, Accurate 100. H-450, Hodgdon 101. H-4831, Hodgdon 102. MRP, Norma 103. N165, Vihtavuori 104. Reloader 22, Alliant 105. IMR-7828, IMR 106. Reloader 25, Alliant 107. H-1000, Hodgdon 108. XMR-8700, Accurate 109. H-870, Hodgdon 110. H-50BMG, Hodgdon (slowest burn rate) I hope you can read it, I had the list in 3 columns. Russ |
RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
My '06 seams to favor 4350. Ive tried to find loads for it using 4064 but they never grouped well. I had a 25-06 that favor 4350 for 100gr bullets but 4064 for 75gr and neither worked for 115 ballistic tips! My brother had a 308 that favored 4064.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I like and use them both. I have a very accurate load for my 30.06 with 4064 and Hornady's 130grn spire point. I can mustard more velocity with the 4350 but it's not as accurate in my rifle as the 4064 with the 130grn bullet. If i move up to 150grn bullets then the 4350 groups much better than the 4064 does. I mainly use 4350 in my 25.06 which is very accurate with a 120grn spitzer.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I used the 4064 with 150 gr. in my 30-06 and it was a show stopper.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
I have tried several different loads and powders since 1972 in several different 06's and it's always comes back to IMR4064. This is with 150 gr. Sierra Gamekings.
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RE: IMR 4064 & 4350 Comparison
IMR 4350. I have never shot any other powder from my 06, never needed to.
I was in the preliminary stages of load development when I ran across Dan Newberry's website. http://home.earthlink.net/~dannewber...addevelopment/ You may have seen this before, but if not, he uses an interesting technique for developing his loads. He refers to it as Optimal Charge Weight Load Development. Some agree with him and some don't. I thought it was a good read. He has a great load for IMR 4350 and 165gr bullets. I followed his technique, with my 06, and found his recommended load to best from my gun also. I've not tried any other calibers he has listed. Hope this helps, Toby |
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