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Old 09-20-2013 | 08:07 AM
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What is your "go-to" load data source . . . data from the powder company or bullet manufacturer?
Or do you use on-line data like Handloads.com?
I've noticed some pretty large (potentially dangerous) load differences between powder & bullet company. I just loaded my .308 using IMR 4064 using the Hodgdon data for a ladder shoot. Went from 40.7 to 45.2. I always load 5 foulers to get "on paper" and use the 'middle ground' of the load range. THESE WERE TOO HOT! BLEW THE PRIMER OUT OF ONE AND COULD HARDLY GET THE BOLT OPEN!
I'm loading Nosler Ballistic Tip Hunting in 180 gr. The Nosler data range is from 39.0 to 43.0. A significant difference. I'm using that next time!
I understand different barrels, lengths, primers, brass, etc. . . but Nosler's max is Hodgdon's middle ground!

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Old 09-20-2013 | 11:07 AM
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I trust data that I work up in my rifles if looking for a max load, just to many variables to stick to the book, in another rifle or with a different bullet in your rifle, those loads may have been acceptable. with published data, start mid-level work up slow and watch for pressure signs, it you were getting heavy bolt lift, why the heck ya keep shooting?
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Old 09-20-2013 | 11:11 AM
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I was shooting other loads with 168 gr bullets. I did stop the 180's.
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Old 09-21-2013 | 01:13 AM
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Yep,dig4gold,i've noticed the same thing,over the years! I,like most hand loaders,have more than one load data books. After a while you can just about have a sense of what is too hot! I trust the bullet makers books.
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Old 09-21-2013 | 01:29 AM
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Every new load I work, I start from the very bottom and work up. You never know if the light load won't be the most accurate. I will sacrafice speed for accuratcy, every time. I also check the primer every time I go up in powder. I will check usually at least two sources before I start a new load. I have never blown up a rifle yet.........knock on wood, as soon as I see pressure on the primer, I stop. Hope this helps.

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Old 09-21-2013 | 09:50 AM
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Start in the middle and work up 1/2 grain at a time. Every rifle is an enigma. What works in one does not necessarily work in another. I have had rifles of the same caliber that would not accept loads that were perfect for its twin. They were way too hot. Size and trim brass .005 below max and begin your loading. I prefer loading 5 of each charge and spending the day at the range. Find your most accurate combination, and then go up or down with your charge 1/10th of a grain as needed. If it is a lesser charge, then be happy, because all of the velocity that you can get means nothing if you can't hit where you are aiming.
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Old 09-23-2013 | 04:35 AM
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blow a gun apart at a range.

He mistakenly put about double the powder in the cartridge. He survived. Some people don't follow WRITTEN instructions. Those are the people I worry about.
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Old 09-26-2013 | 08:45 AM
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I usually use the bullet company's data. Especially since I use Barnes X bullets and they have different properties than typical lead core bullets.

For plain Jane lead core bullets, I usually cross check a bunch of manuals and see where most loads are. I'll start around where most say is the middle load and tinker from there.
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Old 10-08-2013 | 08:10 AM
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Since I use mostly Speer bullets I use their data for a starting point. They tend to be conservative so I work up till I start seeing pressure signs then adjust from there.
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Old 10-10-2013 | 02:43 AM
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Good stuff all! And thanks.
I do have several load data books and on line sources.
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