bigcountry

So I am trying to get into this shotshell reloading thing.

I am having trouble understanding the need to by high brass or 16mm brass.

I can shoot the same charge out of a low brass hull, if a recipie calls for it that is? Correct?

Vapodog

Some of the very best magnum loads (2 3/4" 12 Ga) I've ever made was using AA hulls. These were 1 3/8 Oz baby magnums....

I've also used Federal gold medals the same way.

You are absolutely correct.....you don't need hi-brass cases to make great hunting loads.

Just follow the recipe and don't substitute primers.....some you can substitute and some you shouldn't if you're making 11,000 PSI loads

bigcountry

So is there ever any use for high brass hulls?

Vapodog

I've never reloaded a high-base shotshell in my life,....not for lead and not for steel.....IMO....NO

I sure loaded a lot of AA and gold medals however..../\

Pawildman

...... bc.. I've loaded tens of thousands of rounds of 12 ga. trap loads in AA hulls. I've also loaded some pretty hefty field loads in those same brand hulls. The brass height thing is, as I understand it, a carry-over from the "old days" when it was felt additional support was needed with a heavier powder charge in the old paper hulls. It therefore meant if it was a "high-brass" shell, it was a more potent round than a "low-brass", which was loaded to a lower pressure level. I think the ammo companies continue to perpetuate the myth and realize the old adage about the brass height is a selling point even yet.

Vapodog

As a footnote.....

The only 12 Ga hulls I've found useful in reloading are the low base trap loads from the big three manufacturers......and as attested they make marvelous hunting loads as well as target loads and dove and quail loads.

However there is one more hull I've had good success with and that's the new Fiocci hull in both 2 3/4" as well as 3" from Ballistic products. Darn things load and function great and star crimp or roll crimp nicely.

They aren't very economical but make great ammo and I sorta like the custom look of the roll crimped rounds with the clear plastic overshot wads.

The 3" Fiocci hulls also make great steel loads but if you go this route break down and buy the manual from BP.....

I wouldn't give a dime for a truckload of high brass 12 Ga hulls as they get stuck in my MEC 600 and are a PITA

Prairie Wolf

High base means nothing. Only the internal dimensions matter.

It may have meant something in the past, or it may have been a marketing ploy that people bought.

Prairie Wolf

Incidentally, what are you reloading for?

bigcountry

Right now, only hammerhead slugs.

Prairie Wolf

OK, never reloaded slugs.

I reload mostly steel shot. It can be a real pain. I am currently able to buy shells at $5.50 per box after rebate, so reloading doesn't pay at that rate. I haven't loaded shotshells much for a few years.

Given the price jumps on ammo lately, I think the old stock that I'm buying will run out soon, and I'll be back to rolling my own.

Good luck.