Waaaa, Waaaa, Waaaa, don't go getting your panties in a bunch, you were wrong now just admit it and move on.

Can you actually make thunder chicken salad out of thunder chicken schit?

I don't think so. You remind me of that guy vabryd who wanted to get banned and did, but now wants to come back under another name. He sat here and asked all these silly freakin questions on which gun he needs to buy and on and on. Why would anyone do these childish antics.

Anyone that doesn't know how to setup a primer has no business reloading or touching guns.

I have a bar sto on order. But considering wilson combat instead. Do you have experience with either?

Who cares? You have apparently not educated yourself enough to understand the concept being discussed.

Nope. The only semi I own is a G23. I'm more of a long gun guy though I did just get a nice deal on a Taurus 627 Tracker Titanium 41Mag as a backpacking sidearm. Somehow the G23 never seemed enough in grizzly country.

kinda sounds like maybe just using them 5 times is good? lots of things spoken of, but i was just wonderin what the final verdict was...is it wall thickness or somethin?

Bottom line is, you have an unsupported part of the case. Thats means, load at your own risk. i load starting loads with my G21 and use +P starline brass. For months, I took notes with a micrometer measuring any expansion. I am sure I could go more.

But I decided to nip it in the bud and just get a bar sto bar match barrel. That way I can shoot until the brass cracks if I want.

[QUOTE=bigcountry;3600554]Bottom line is, you have an unsupported part of the case. Thats means, load at your own risk. i load starting loads with my G21 and use +P starline brass. For months, I took notes with a micrometer measuring any expansion. I am sure I could go more.

But I decided to nip it in the bud and just get a bar sto bar match barrel. That way I can shoot until the brass cracks if I want.[/QUOTE


well thats what happened when it exploded in my hand, the brass had cracked and i had to pull it out with needle nose pliers. to me that was too late. so whats the most, rule of thumb if u will, ya want to use the brass?

Heh. See, I'm so content with my unsupported chamber that I didn't ever realize you were talking aftermarket barrels. My bad. I am curious as to any change in reliability with the fully supported chambers but have never really looked into it as I never saw a reason to switch.

There is no set number of loadings. As bigcountry said, it's at your own risk. I load down away from max pressure, closer to minimum loads, and toss them after what is a very small number of loadings for straight-wall pistol brass.

I don't shoot reloads for self-defense, which is the only time I need full power ammo, and the POI is close enough. So no need to worry about it to me as I get enough free brass.

When I'm talking about throwing reloads at my XDm I'm talking about my own.
I have 3 different plinking loads that I do and the gun loves them all.
The Sierra 135gr HPs I do up with Tightgroup powder would never shoot in a Glock due to high pressure numbers.
Only reason I do up a 135gr HP load is I have a family member at Sierra that gives them to me by the bucket.
I mainly shoot a 165 FMJ Berry with Universal or TG powder.

[quote=halfbakedi420;3600582]For instance with my 9mm 92FS or my 1911 colt, I will shoot brass until it cracks at the neck. They have fully supported chambers. I know that if brass gets weak at the rim, its going to hit chamber walls first. But with glock, there is a 2-3mm portion that it has no wall to hit, and only can blow out.

But my 40S&W glock, or 45ACP glock, I will not go that far. I will segargate brass by firings and keep close taps with a mics the width at the rim. If I see any hint of bulge, they get tossed.

Honestly, I never was aware of glock KB's 5-7 years ago. I shot full tilt 357sig and 40S&W loads in my glocks with range brass I picked up. I never had an issue, but looking back I feel lucky. Some of my loads were hot. As you found, it only takes one weak piece and you can ruin your hand, you mag, and your frame.

Bigcounty / Spanial

I'll jump right in to the conversation about aftermarket barrels. I just bought a Lonewolf barrel for my G23. I have not started reloading for it yet but plan too soon and that was the reason for purchasing it. I just got it yesterday so I have not fired it yet. The fit and finish is excellent. If it shoots as good, I will be very happy. So far I have only chambered some A zoom snap caps through it and they chamber without a problem.

Here is a picture so you can see the difference in chamber support. The Lonewolf's chamber is definitely a lot tighter.

Pretty cool. Thanks for the picture. I expected a little more coverage.

I know the lone wolf would have been 50 dollars cheaper. Did you have have to have a gunsmith fit it?

I have a Lone Wolf barrel for my G32 to make it a .40 cal. Fit and finish are perfect and it shoots more to POA than my stock .357 sig barrel does. Not a bad option when considering the cost of the .357 sig rounds.

i was gonna get the sig barrel fer my 40...but i have put it off cause size aint much of a difference.what would be the benefit fer gettin that barrel.

Cajun,

Thanks so much for the pictures, I had never seen the comparison before. Like BC I'm surprised that there is still that amount of case that looks unsupported. I wonder how that compares to a 1911 design or something.

Your welcome! It dropped right in with a perfect fit. The fit is every bit as good as the stock barrel with no modifications needed. The true test will be running a few hundred rounds through it. I'm also impressed with the finish on the barrel. Since it is a cheaper barrel, I wasn't expecting as nice of a finish as it has.

There is a very noticeable difference in chamber size by wiggling the cartridge around on both barrels. The Lonewolf has a lot tighter chamber.

Your welcome! I wasn't sure exactly how much difference to expect. I don't have anything else to compare it to. I had a M&P40C that was close to the Lonewolf barrel but since It's gone now, I can't compare side by side. I'm hoping to go test some 3006 rounds Saturday so if I get to go, I'll test out the barrel and compare brass fired from both barrels. I'll post some measurements from both here.

Hey Spaniel, send me all that brass you're tossing. I'll put it to good use. :biggrin::biggrin:

The .357 sig cartridge would give you a different ballistic range. I think it was designed to compete with the .357 mag ballistically, however it does not. The cost of the ammo is atleast 50% more. Unless you want it for something different then I see no benefit to getting that. I went from the .357 sig to the .40 s&w to cut down on cost at the range and the ease of finding ammo.

what are we lookin at here? look the same..i think the black one hides some of the features, but overall the same?

The black one as you can see leaves more of the case unsupported below the web, it's not much more but it is visible.

yeah i c now..jus a lil

Here is the report I promised....

I finally got to get out and shoot some rounds through both. I was very surprised by the results. The parts that look "unsupported" in the pictures are actually below (closer to the rear) where the case is solid. The part of the case that holds the powder and bulges is in the chamber.

As I mentioned before, the glock's chamber is a lot looser then the Lone wolf's chamber. The Glock bulge happens inside the chamber space. There is a very noticeable difference in the brass fired from each.

On my reloads, It would jamb if I dropped the slide with the slide release. It loaded fine if I pulled the slide back and then released it that way. After loading the first round it would run through the rest of the magazine fine. I had noticed a crease in the brass as well that was being made on the top of the feed ramp. I took that edge off and then polished it up along with the rest of the feed ramp. I have not shot it since but with some dummy rounds I made, it is feeding without any problems or creases when using the slide release. The accuracy was good with factory rounds but not a major improvement over the stock barrel. I need to work on my reloads because they didn't shoot as tight as the Federal I shot.

In comparing the two side by side, the Glock chamber is looser all around.