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Speer Bullets
Does anyone use Speer bullets and if so how well do they perform on deer sized game? I will be using a Speer 120grn SPTZ bullet from a 25.06. Thank You!
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RE: Speer Bullets
I use Speer 87gr TNT for woodchucks but for deer sized game I use Hornady 120gr HP,accurate and deadly at close and long ranges...;)
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RE: Speer Bullets
That bullet should work fine for deer. I have no experience with it however.
I have shot deer and antelope with 117gr Sierra Gameking. Excellent accuracy and performance. I have also shot deer with the 115 Nosler Partition. Accuracy was good and performance was excellent. |
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I shoot alot of speer bullets. my 270 shoots 130 hot cores the best. killed a bunch of deer with them. i have noticed they do come apart but do alot of tissue damage.
now i shoot 165 gr grand slams in my 308 and they do a awesome job! I have a box of 25 cal 120 sptz but i havent loaded or shot any yet. i am going to a heavier bullet next year in my 25-06 from 100 gr noslers b/t' s. the nosler killed but i think a little heavier bullet will give better performance. |
RE: Speer Bullets
just about any bullet will work for deer.....having said that, I' d recommend Hornady' s 120 gr hollow point.
I believe penetration is paramount and the inner groove of the Hornady bullets are superior to any non bonded bullets. BTW Hornady is coming out with a bonded bullet this spring.....and I' ll bet it' s going to be a winner. |
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At the risk of offending the folks who like to blow a deer in half to be sure it dead, I have to say that I used to use the hot core speer bullets. They however damage a lot of meat. I second the Hornady Bullet although the Barnes X bullet would be my choice for a 25-06 and 243 Win. 100 gr. X for the 25-06 and either the 85 or 90 grain X in the 243.
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For years, I have used the Sierra Game King boattail bullets for deer. They certainly do the job if my bullet hits in the sweet spot just rearward of the front shoulder, but I have had a couple of them blow up on bone when I used them at higher velocity. My favorite load is the 117 grain in my .257 Roberts, using 48 grains of MRP powder.
In recent years, I have experimented with Speer bullets. I took a black bear in Alberta last year with one shot at about 250 yards with a 180 grain Speer Grand Slam bullet from my .30-06. We recovered the bullet and it was a perfect mushroom. My other black bear was taken using the 180 grain Barnes XBT from the same rifle. It was also a one-shot kill, but the bullet went the whole way through and we didn' t recover it. I am a believer in using decent well-constructed bullets for the tougher game. I don' t think it matters much what bullet you use for average whitetails if you hit them in the ribcage and take out the lungs. I still use the Sierra Boattails, and recently bought some Speer Hot Cor boattails to experiment with. I will try them on deer this fall. |
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I hope this link works for you. I took a photo of four bullets recovered from african game. When you go to the photo, the bullet on the far left was recovered from a wildebeest. It is a .30 cal 200 grain Trophy Bonded bullet from my .300 Weatherby. The two bullets in the center are also TB bullets recovered from a Kudu. The one on the right is a 400 grain Barnes X bullet recovered from the cape buffalo and shot from my .416 Rem. Mag.
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RE: Speer Bullets
I like the Hornady Interlok at 117 gr, coming out of my 257 Roberts at about 2850 fps. If your set on Speer the Grand Slam will do you good. Try a few different bullets in the same weight to see which your gun likes best.
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I have tried the Speer bullets but got much better results with Barnes X bullets . I have found just about any bullet will work its just a matter of whats good in your opinion .
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To add to my post above, I think the grand slam is a very good bullet.
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I have used speer bullets in my 270 win (130grs ) found that grand slams hold together better than hot cores. Sierria game kings, hornady interlocks , noslers parttions are better. haven' t had much luck with Barns X bullets. Don' t stick with 1 brand. Try differnt bullets and weights. Speer grand slams are a good bullets.
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I don' t have a .25 cal but I have used speer bullets in 6mm, 7mm, and .308 and to me they seem a bit fragile. They tend to break up quite a bit. I switched to Sierra GameKings for all my deer rifles.
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There' s a lot of good comments about Speer' s Grand Slams here.....I have no doubt that they yield excellent terminal perforrmance. I just finished testing several bullets in my .300 H&H and the grand Slams just didn' t stand up to the Swift A-Frames for accuracy. As a matter of fact I' ve not found the Grand Slams an accurate bullet in any of my tests. This time I' g heading out for Kudu and eland and I want a bonded 200 grain bullet.......The Trophy Bonded might have done well but it wasn' t tested.
In my .25-06 the grand slam also showed poor accuracy of about 4" groups at 100 yards. |
RE: Speer Bullets
Thanks for all the replies. The Speer bullet is new to me but the one that i have loaded is the 120grn spt flat base which groups exceptionally well in my rifle 1/2" at 100yds. My main concern is how they will perform on deer. If the Speer doesn' t do what i' m looking for my next bullet choice will the the Nosler 120 grn partition. Again thanks! God Bless!
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I just started using Speer bullets this past fall. They grouped EXCEPTIONALLY well in my 30-30. They only thing I was able to take with them was a 270 pound hog at around 25 yards. I had a quartering away shot. We were hunting with dogs so the hog was on the move. Dropped with one shot. Never recovered the bullet or fragments thereof. If they drop a big hog like that I would be entirely confident using them on deer. Good accuracy+dead animal=good bullet IMO. At 25-06 velocities however I would opt for the Grand Slam bullet
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