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RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony And your problem is...what? But, I guess that is just one more of Wilds' Principles................ |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
The part that will hump you up is that 51.3, 51.7, 52.2 and 52.5, will all fly into the same group center, with much similar group size...... R&D started with .07% increases from47.9 grains, and ended with 53.6, which is where sticky bolt lift occured. 51.3 to 52.5 is the "zone" I chose to work with as all charges in that zone fell to the same POI. Halfway in that "zone", 51.9 grains, represents the optimal instant for the bullet to exit the barrel regarding this barrels harmonics for that range of velocity. Through out that "zone", 51.3 to 52.5,three shot groups were solid 1/2 MOA with a .025" jump to the lands. Once settled on the charge weight of 51.9, I tried an additional .015" off the lands and got about 1 MOA groups. Setting the seating depth to just kissing the lands, or basically0" off the lands produced the group sizeyou see in the pic above..... So I'll ask again, your problem is .....what? |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony The part that will hump you up is that 51.3, 51.7, 52.2 and 52.5, will all fly into the same group center, with much similar group size...... R&D started with .07% increases from47.9 grains, and ended with 53.6, which is where sticky bolt lift occured. 51.3 to 52.5 is the "zone" I chose to work with as all charges in that zone fell to the same POI. Halfway in that "zone", 51.9 grains, represents the optimal instant for the bullet to exit the barrel regarding this barrels harmonics for that range of velocity. Through out that "zone", 51.3 to 52.5,three shot groups were solid 1/2 MOA with a .025" jump to the lands. Once settled on the charge weight of 51.9, I tried an additional .015" off the lands and got about 1 MOA groups. Setting the seating depth to just kissing the lands, or basically0" off the lands produced the group sizeyou see in the pic above..... So I'll ask again, your problem is .....what? I understand that is probably much easier for you to count to three than it is to five. Again, if you are satisfied with your three-note stanzas and don't wish to break your bubble with a five-shot string, by all means forge ahead. This may come as a shock to you, but I actually do understand what you have done and why. Although you feel you have achieved Nirvana with your procedure, the five shot groups will give you a much greater population to extrapolate and interpret meaningful data from. So, once again, if you would have taken the time to actually read my last post, in answer to your query "What's my problem.....??" Once again....If this is your personal pleasure, have at it..........No Problem. |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
Why the pointed comments, as if you imply you operate at a higher level, with your five shot strings......heck, I'm amazed a Pennsytuckian of your calibercould count all the way up to five. I'd have to see it to actually believe it.
I ran a total of 100 rounds on this powder test, with several duplicateconfirmation groups, as well as mid point charge weights in an attempt to purposely skew the results...just to double check. So I'm fairly confident I've all the data I need sans wasting any more componentry at current prices.I've seen me shoot and last I knew,I was pretty good at it. Squeezing a trigger for some, may be a feat unto itself thus requiring more datum points but I'll muddle along just fine without that, and not feel one bit compelled to justify 3 vs. 5 to you or anyone in some 3rd grade pissin' match. It's a hunting rifle dude, one shot one kill, is the acid test....... Now that I've the results for the Hornady Match we'll move on to the TSX in the same grain weight and see if a swap load is doable with the samecharge weight. Since it's a given already proven at similar velocities, I doubt I'll have bad luck with it, but keep in mind nothing is confirmed yetpast 150 yards. Might nowenter into something here you don't understand, so I'll appologize in advance if you get lost....... |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony Why the pointed comments, as if you imply you operate at a higher level, with your five shot strings......heck, I'm amazed a Pennsytuckian of your calibercould count all the way up to five. I'd have to see it to actually believe it. I ran a total of 100 rounds on this powder test, with several duplicateconfirmation groups, as well as mid point charge weights in an attempt to purposely skew the results...just to double check. So I'm fairly confident I've all the data I need sans wasting any more componentry at current prices.I've seen me shoot and last I knew,I was pretty good at it. Squeezing a trigger for some, may be a feat unto itself thus requiring more datum points but I'll muddle along just fine without that, and not feel one bit compelled to justify 3 vs. 5 to you or anyone in some 3rd grade pissin' match. It's a hunting rifle dude, one shot one kill, is the acid test....... Now that I've the results for the Hornady Match we'll move on to the TSX in the same grain weight and see if a swap load is doable with the samecharge weight. Since it's a given already proven at similar velocities, I doubt I'll have bad luck with it, but keep in mind nothing is confirmed yetpast 150 yards. Might nowenter into something here you don't understand, so I'll appologize in advance if you get lost....... |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
Tell me "bow man" all about it....
For someone who admittedly only really cares about traditional archery, you sure spend a lot of time down here in "firearms" harrassing people............. edit for spelling |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony Why the pointed comments, as if you imply you operate at a higher level, with your five shot strings......heck, I'm amazed a Pennsytuckian of your calibercould count all the way up to five. I'd have to see it to actually believe it. I ran a total of 100 rounds on this powder test, with several duplicateconfirmation groups, as well as mid point charge weights in an attempt to purposely skew the results...just to double check. So I'm fairly confident I've all the data I need sans wasting any more componentry at current prices.I've seen me shoot and last I knew,I was pretty good at it. Squeezing a trigger for some, may be a feat unto itself thus requiring more datum points but I'll muddle along just fine without that, and not feel one bit compelled to justify 3 vs. 5 to you or anyone in some 3rd grade pissin' match. It's a hunting rifle dude, one shot one kill, is the acid test....... Now that I've the results for the Hornady Match we'll move on to the TSX in the same grain weight and see if a swap load is doable with the samecharge weight. Since it's a given already proven at similar velocities, I doubt I'll have bad luck with it, but keep in mind nothing is confirmed yetpast 150 yards. Might nowenter into something here you don't understand, so I'll appologize in advance if you get lost....... Wow.................. |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony Tell me "bow man" all about it.... For someone who admittedly only really cares about traditional archery, you sure spend a lot of time down here in "firearms" harrassing people............. edit for spelling I still love to sling lead...............................Who doesn't. Just rather hunt with a bow. Just pointing out a little observation, about people being interested in your results. Hey I got an idea, insteadof creek pics,throw that rifle ina deepriver, and go in after it and see if you can find it. That would entertain us. We wouldn't mind seeing that. Have one of your buddies take a picture of course. Several if possible. And a high bridge too. Like over 100ft high. That would be cool for us to watch. Oh yea, don't forget the angle wieghts. Very important, grin........ Go on now, get back to us with those pictures. grin grin........laughter........................ |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
ORIGINAL: bigcountry ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony Tell me "bow man" all about it.... For someone who admittedly only really cares about traditional archery, you sure spend a lot of time down here in "firearms" harrassing people............. edit for spelling I still love to sling lead...............................Who doesn't. Just rather hunt with a bow. Just pointing out a little observation, about people being interested in your results. Hey I got an idea, insteadof creek pics,throw that rifle ina deepriver, and go in after it and see if you can find it. That would entertain us. We wouldn't mind seeing that. And a high bridge too. Like over 100ft high. That would be cool for us to watch. Go on now, get back to us with those pictures. grin grin........laughter........................ LMFAO.......... |
RE: Dang Flyer's........
Since you obviouslyspeak for all People everywhere, I'll take into consideration from where it comes.
There, that didn't take long, nor much effort... Have a nice evening bow man......... |
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