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Mr. Longbeard 08-02-2007 08:27 AM

Need help with dies
 
I want to get some 30-06 dies... I'm thinking about Lee dies...

Not really sure what ones I need... I know I need full length dies... I'm in the Cabelas book and I see Lee Pacesetter Dies, Crimp Dies, RGB Dies and Deluxe Dies... I was thinking that the Pace Setter dies would work for me...

Can anybody tell me wich ones I can use???

The pacesetter dies are 18.99... I like that price:D

bigcountry 08-02-2007 08:35 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 
I loathe pacesetters. I have set for my 300win mag, and they caused horrible runout. I bought RCBS. Only die that lee makes I use anymore is collet dies. Everything else is junk. Even the collet dies will start sticking cause the cheap metal they use for the mandrel after about 3000 reloads.

Mr. Longbeard 08-02-2007 12:23 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
Thanks for the info... I guess I'll be buyin g RCBS dies;)

falcon 08-02-2007 02:08 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
"Everything else is junk."

i have had one set of Lee dies in my lifetime; in.223. They were awful. Go with Redding or RCBS.

rjhans53 08-02-2007 04:28 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
This is going to be a little long winded so bear with me. I juststarted loading for a pair of 338 federals about 5 or 6months ago. Unless I was using FC brass the expander ball didn't even touch on the way back down. I called RCBS and after about 1/2 an hour or so of going over my problem she told me they would send me a new sizer and if that didn't do the trick I was to send the dies and the brass back to them. I didn't have to send them back as the new die works great. The service I recieved was top notch, she seemed to care that I had a problem and promised and did resolve it. Guess whos dies I'm buying in the future, yep RCBS

HEAD0001 08-02-2007 05:09 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
What rifle??? You may need Small Base dies to reliably feed certain actions.Tom.

Mr. Longbeard 08-02-2007 08:31 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
Rem 750 WM semi auto30-06

HEAD0001 08-02-2007 09:00 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
You definitely need the small base dies. Tom.

sabotloader 08-02-2007 09:15 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
Mr. Longbeard

Just as a thought I would suggest you get a universal 30 cal neck sizer, mine is a Hornady, then you can neck any 30 you have. And I agree with the RCBS thought, they do offer 2 qualities of dies so you will have to make that choice....

Cossack 08-03-2007 02:39 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
The neck sizer may cause feeding problems with the auto. I'd go with small base dies. I prefer Rcbs, Redding or Hornady but Lees will do just fine for your purpose..

steve4102 08-03-2007 03:56 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
I have Redding, Lee, RCBS, Hornady and Forster. The Redding Type S Bushing Dies are great. The only draw back is that they will cause excessive runout if you size the neck more than .004-.005 in one shot. This sometimes requires two different size bushings and can be a pain.
The Forster Bench Rest Dies http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=568794&t=11082005 Are excellent. They produce the most concentric of any of the FL dies I own. I highly recommend them.
I do not think you will need the "Small Base Dies" for your Remington. The SB dies are hard on brass and IMO not necessary. A properly set up FL die should work just fine.
Neck sizing is NOT an option when loading for an auto-loader. When a round is fired in a bolt gun the brass expands to the chamber dimentions and springs back slightly to allow for easy extraction. Things are a bit different in an auto-loader. The brass is extracted when the brass is still under a slight bit of pressure thus causing the brass to be of different dimentions, longer, fatter etc. than the chamber. The fired brass is not a "perfect" fit as in a bolt gun. It is stretched out of whack and need to be FL sized back into place.

leeklm 08-03-2007 07:03 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Mr. Longbeard

Just as a thought I would suggest you get a universal 30 cal neck sizer, mine is a Hornady, then you can neck any 30 you have. And I agree with the RCBS thought, they do offer 2 qualities of dies so you will have to make that choice....
I have never used a neck sizer only, but have been considering it for my bolt-actions. Does the neck sizer have the primer extractor pin so that the primers are kicked out at the same time (similar to a full sizer)?

stalkingbear 08-13-2007 06:20 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 
RCBS has the BEST warranty in the business. You could dig a rcbs die up in a field,send it in,and get it back as new or a new 1. That said,rcbs sizer buttons screw in instead of collet(clamp pressure). Go with rcbs and you have dies for not only your life,but your kids and grandkids lifetime!


eldeguello 08-13-2007 07:22 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 
Mr. Longbeard, just where in MD do you live, anyway? I'm 4.5 miles N. of Hagerstown, just N of Mason-Dixon line. Maybe we could get together some time and I could help you with some of your challenges. I've been loading rifle ammo now since 1953.......

bigcountry 08-13-2007 09:25 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 

ORIGINAL: eldeguello

Mr. Longbeard, just where in MD do you live, anyway? I'm 4.5 miles N. of Hagerstown, just N of Mason-Dixon line. Maybe we could get together some time and I could help you with some of your challenges. I've been loading rifle ammo now since 1953.......
I am all the time ridin my cycle in the chambersburg area, we should meet up sometime. Maybe you don't want too[X(]. But I am pretty good guy.

backyardreloader 08-13-2007 01:16 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
iv had nothing but bad luck with lee. they dont stay locked down that well with o-rings nuts. i have had really good luck with rcbs dies. the company garentees everything and once you get them set to your press, they stay for good.


eldeguello 08-14-2007 06:38 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: eldeguello

Mr. Longbeard, just where in MD do you live, anyway? I'm 4.5 miles N. of Hagerstown, just N of Mason-Dixon line. Maybe we could get together some time and I could help you with some of your challenges. I've been loading rifle ammo now since 1953.......
I am all the time ridin my cycle in the chambersburg area, we should meet up sometime. Maybe you don't want too[X(]. But I am pretty good guy.
PM sent...

Mr. Longbeard 08-14-2007 08:07 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
Hey eldeguello. I'm from the baltimore area... But I drive I-70 almost every week end in the fall and spring... Maybe we can hook up... I always thought you were in Texas with the aviator:D

What ranges do you shoot at in Hagerstown???

SJAdventures 08-14-2007 09:19 PM

RE: Need help with dies
 
RCBS, great dies and lifetime warranty

eldeguello 08-15-2007 08:48 AM

RE: Need help with dies
 

ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard

Hey eldeguello. I'm from the baltimore area... But I drive I-70 almost every week end in the fall and spring... Maybe we can hook up... I always thought you were in Texas with the aviator:D

What ranges do you shoot at in Hagerstown???
Mr. Longbeard, I am currently doing my shooting at the Waynesboro Fish & Game Preservation Club at Quincy, PA about 2 miles northeast of Waynesboro PA. I think this is about the closest range to my house, yet it it about 30 miles, as I live 4 miles north of Greencastle just west of I-81.

I currently live in PA, for no particular reason. I was born in Ft. Worth TX, attended college in TX, but was an Army (and later, AF) brat and never lived anywhere more than about 18 months as a kid. Then I spent 38 years in the Army myself, retired at Ft. Hood TX, and later moved to NY, then PA! My kids live in CO and TX respectively. Guess I should move back there. But at my age, moving is a real chore!


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