Fire-Forming .280 Improved
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
To all you AI shooters out there. I learned something last night, and I would like to know if it is true. I thought the AI improvements were shoulder improvements only? I had a fellow tell me last night that on the 22-250 AI- not only was the shoulder changed, but the body taper was also changed. Is that true? The same fellow told me that 22-250 case capacity was increased by 20%-I find that hard to believe. Does anyone know if that 20% figure is true? Is the body taper affected on the 280AI? Tom.
#13
RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
20% might be a bit of stretch. But your friend is right - all the ackley improved calibers have minimum body taper and most have a 40 degree shoulder. This is generally good for 150 fps or more increase in velocity.
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: S.W. Pa.-- Heart in North Central Pa. mountains-
Posts: 2,600
RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
BigBob 30-06---
Thanks for explaining the use of the .270 casings. I was about to do that, as that's exactly how I'd been doing it years ago to make .280 cases when they were scarce........
Thanks for explaining the use of the .270 casings. I was about to do that, as that's exactly how I'd been doing it years ago to make .280 cases when they were scarce........
#17
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006
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RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
Talked to my gunsmith today. I asked him about headspacing. He said he uses the regular .280 Rem "go" gauge as a "no-go" gauge for the improved, and he has a special "go" gauge he made. It should take some effort to close the bolt on factory ammo, in order to hold the brass against the bolt face for fire-forming. Like you were referring to, Roskoe, bullet seating depth shouldn't matter.
The rifle should be done next week. I plan to use lightweight Talley rings, and a 3.5-10x Leupold VX3 with the B&C reticle. The range I usually go to closes for the month of December, so I may have to wait a while to shoot it. There's another range, further out of town, but I rarely go there. I may see if they're open.
BigBob, if you ever find yourself making a return trip to Alaska, please look me up. I'd be happy to take you out halibut fishing.
The rifle should be done next week. I plan to use lightweight Talley rings, and a 3.5-10x Leupold VX3 with the B&C reticle. The range I usually go to closes for the month of December, so I may have to wait a while to shoot it. There's another range, further out of town, but I rarely go there. I may see if they're open.
BigBob, if you ever find yourself making a return trip to Alaska, please look me up. I'd be happy to take you out halibut fishing.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: RIO RANCHO NEW MEXICO USA
Posts: 168
RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
Dan,
Thank you for the offer of fishing. Due to health reasons, I doubt if I'll ever make it to the north country again. Ah, but thanks for the memories. I get my Alaska fix nowadays by reading Robert W. Service. There are parts of "Dan McGrew" that I think I have camped in exactly the same places.
Thank you for the offer of fishing. Due to health reasons, I doubt if I'll ever make it to the north country again. Ah, but thanks for the memories. I get my Alaska fix nowadays by reading Robert W. Service. There are parts of "Dan McGrew" that I think I have camped in exactly the same places.
#19
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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RE: Fire-Forming .280 Improved
Just picked up the rifle yesterday. It seems to be headspaced perfectly - it takes a little umph to close the bolt on a resized & empty regular .280 case. I put together some loads for fireforming last night. I need to slap a temporary scope on rifle, and I will be set for shooting this weekend. I plan to use the fireforming session to break in the barrel (regular cleaning during the course of fire) and hope to get into some real load development soon. I am anxious to see what this baby can do.