The frustrations of reloading
03-02-2006, 01:46 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
ORIGINAL: HighDesertWolf
Ruger???...... Dang ol' rugers...... even though I live 2 seconds from the Arizona ruger plant I just cant push myself to buy a ruger bolt action.
Ruger???...... Dang ol' rugers...... even though I live 2 seconds from the Arizona ruger plant I just cant push myself to buy a ruger bolt action.
well, HDW Ill ship it to ya, and you can "run her over"
I thank everyone for thier input but I have one question. Why is it that I have shot this gun for 2 years prior to reloading for it and it never gave me a problem with factory stuff? I am thinking about buying a box of factories and seeing how it does once again. Would it be a sin as a reloader if I had one gun that I didnt reload for the sad part is, I bought this gun for groundhogs, fox, coyotes and within a month or two it will be time for the little vermin to be stickin their heads up outta thier holes and I cant get a load to work! [:@]
03-02-2006, 02:58 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
Mossy, I have faced some issues like this and there was some underlying things causing it. What I found on 300RUM #1, was I got such better performance with factory rounds. I started loading deeper to match it and all the sudden I exceeding performance. Sometimes loading deeper can help things. Not sure if you tried that.
03-02-2006, 04:46 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
Mossy I dont think its a sin, some of the new high dollar stuff is very close in performance to some reloads and face it for hunting we get away with a gun that shoots "ok". I mainly use factory rounds in my 223. I find it hard to beat the Black Hills ammo for it. I think you have plenty of good advice to help you threw this but to make you feel a little better just remember FL St just beat Duke, I know that doesnt help with your Ruger but should curve your frustrations. Good Luck
How about trying brass instead of nickel casings. Just a thought if havent tried that already. I know there isnt much difference but in my 222 I went from brass to nickel and the same exact load didnt shoot the same.
How about trying brass instead of nickel casings. Just a thought if havent tried that already. I know there isnt much difference but in my 222 I went from brass to nickel and the same exact load didnt shoot the same.
03-02-2006, 05:29 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
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Mossy, I have faced some issues like this and there was some underlying things causing it. What I found on 300RUM #1, was I got such better performance with factory rounds. I started loading deeper to match it and all the sudden I exceeding performance. Sometimes loading deeper can help things. Not sure if you tried that.
Mossy, I have faced some issues like this and there was some underlying things causing it. What I found on 300RUM #1, was I got such better performance with factory rounds. I started loading deeper to match it and all the sudden I exceeding performance. Sometimes loading deeper can help things. Not sure if you tried that.
03-02-2006, 05:32 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
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just remember FL St just beat Duke, I know that doesnt help with your Ruger but should curve your frustrations. Good Luck
just remember FL St just beat Duke, I know that doesnt help with your Ruger but should curve your frustrations. Good Luck
hey I got an idea.....how about some of you local boys come on over to my house this weekend and help me case prep all 120 casings? I thought my elbow was gonna fall off last time I trimmed all 120 [X(]......beers on me! 
03-04-2006, 06:44 AM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
I've had excellent performance from my Ruger No. 1V .25/'06 using 117-grain Sierra and 115-grain Nosler partition bullets in it with N205, Norma MRP, and lately RE 22 and Fed. 210 primers. Very hot, top-end loads too!
03-04-2006, 02:21 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
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I've had excellent performance from my Ruger No. 1V .25/'06 using 117-grain Sierra and 115-grain Nosler partition bullets in it with N205, Norma MRP, and lately RE 22 and Fed. 210 primers. Very hot, top-end loads too!
I've had excellent performance from my Ruger No. 1V .25/'06 using 117-grain Sierra and 115-grain Nosler partition bullets in it with N205, Norma MRP, and lately RE 22 and Fed. 210 primers. Very hot, top-end loads too!
03-04-2006, 05:02 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
mossy33oak,
The loads that come easy are nice, but it's the other ones that will teach you the most. Many years ago I bought a then new Ruger M=77 in the 7mm Rem Mag. It is still the only rifle I've ever had that I couldn't get to shoot under MOA. After six months I got rid of it. The last time I was in Prescott I stopped in at one of the local gun stores. The owner of the shop didn't have any kind words for Rugers. He made one comment while we were talking about lousy accuracy in Rugers. He stated that Ruger paid the maker of their barrels $4.00 each. He didn't think one had much hope for accuracy from a $4.00 barrel. I have heard of one trick that might help improve accuracy. Enlarge the hole for the front stock screw so the screw isn't touching the stock. I don't know about Rugers, but I've enlarged stockscrew holes for years and have had good results. You don't have to go wild on it, just large enough so the screw doesn't touch the wood.
The loads that come easy are nice, but it's the other ones that will teach you the most. Many years ago I bought a then new Ruger M=77 in the 7mm Rem Mag. It is still the only rifle I've ever had that I couldn't get to shoot under MOA. After six months I got rid of it. The last time I was in Prescott I stopped in at one of the local gun stores. The owner of the shop didn't have any kind words for Rugers. He made one comment while we were talking about lousy accuracy in Rugers. He stated that Ruger paid the maker of their barrels $4.00 each. He didn't think one had much hope for accuracy from a $4.00 barrel. I have heard of one trick that might help improve accuracy. Enlarge the hole for the front stock screw so the screw isn't touching the stock. I don't know about Rugers, but I've enlarged stockscrew holes for years and have had good results. You don't have to go wild on it, just large enough so the screw doesn't touch the wood.
03-07-2006, 04:40 PM
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RE: The frustrations of reloading
Mossy,
If you can go and buy a box of factory ballistic silvertips and shoot 1 - 1.25 all day long I would do two things right off the bat and not change them through all of your testing until you find something that looks promising.
Number 1: The bullet obviously works in your gun. Stay there for now.
Number 2: Factory seating depth obviously works in your gun. Stay there for now.
Number 3: Although Ruger guns aren't that high on the reputation scale for being accurate or easy to work with, factory ammo has proven that it is capable of shooting groups that are acceptable to you.
As far as powders go, it might be a crap shoot, but try and figure out the mid-range powders for what you are trying to do. Work with those first.
Which powders do you have on hand to try?
Maybe you have already been through all this mumbo jumbo but to me this is part of the fun of handloading. When you are done you will know more about handloading and this rifle and the things you learn will apply to other rifles and loads down the road. Don't get discouraged. It will come together for you one day and all the frustration and pain will be forgotten.
Keep us posted.
If you can go and buy a box of factory ballistic silvertips and shoot 1 - 1.25 all day long I would do two things right off the bat and not change them through all of your testing until you find something that looks promising.
Number 1: The bullet obviously works in your gun. Stay there for now.
Number 2: Factory seating depth obviously works in your gun. Stay there for now.
Number 3: Although Ruger guns aren't that high on the reputation scale for being accurate or easy to work with, factory ammo has proven that it is capable of shooting groups that are acceptable to you.
As far as powders go, it might be a crap shoot, but try and figure out the mid-range powders for what you are trying to do. Work with those first.
Which powders do you have on hand to try?
Maybe you have already been through all this mumbo jumbo but to me this is part of the fun of handloading. When you are done you will know more about handloading and this rifle and the things you learn will apply to other rifles and loads down the road. Don't get discouraged. It will come together for you one day and all the frustration and pain will be forgotten.
Keep us posted.