7mm Ultra Mag vs. the 300 Ultra Mag
 

The balistics show the 300 being a better cartrige for long range. Does anyone have an opinion on this and does anyone reload these and can tell me which cartrige is the best for long range deer hunting...400 yards and further.

Thanks in advance

RE: 7mm Ultra Mag vs. the 300 Ultra Mag
 

Your going to get higher BC with the .308 bullet. Also, seems to like bullets in the 200-220gr category. Some like the 220gr Matchking has over .6 BC.

RE: 7mm Ultra Mag vs. the 300 Ultra Mag
 

For deer either one will work fine at distances much further than most of us have the skills to shoot accurately.

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RE: 7mm Ultra Mag vs. the 300 Ultra Mag
 

frankly i fail to believe that any one needs a deer cartridge for more that 400 yards. now i want you to realize that at ranges under 100 yards you are really going to mess up the deer meat. now if you are a antler only hunter that might be ok with you but i still dont like it.
if you can actally shoot well at 400+ yards i reccomend the higher bc with the .30cal bullet offerings, it provides more umph.

propmahn
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RE: 7mm Ultra Mag vs. the 300 Ultra Mag
 

Propmahn....Let me first say that you are not talking to a rooky deer hunter. I have been shooting a rifle since I was six years old and am now 30. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem. Mag for the past 15 years and personally never seen the evidence to back up the fact about messing up the deer meat. I have killed deer at 20 yards to 385 yards with the 7mm that I currently own.

I hunt in Uvalde Tx on a company lease about half of the deer season where the country is flat. There is some brush but we have a bunch of oat fields with zero cover. The brush is on neighboring leases. Last year I let two deer walk because I wasn't sighted in for 400 yards. I would like to start carrying two guns one sighted for short and one long. When there is nothing to hide you, try to get within 500 yards of a 180 class buck. It won't happen unless you are walking around in a Cow Costume.

Anyway, I asked your opinion on a gun and caliber, not my ethics in hunting....

Stone Cold

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Propman, where are you shooting your deer???? I suggest not shooting them in the hind, spine, neck or places like that where you mess up the meat. I shot two last year with my 300RUM with almost no meat damage besides the one shoulder, which I could care less about. But I only try to shoot my deer thru both lungs or broadside shot. I never see this huge amount of meat damage. The guts protect the hinds from hydrostatic shock, the spine and ribs protect the backstraps and the shoulders protect the shanks.

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dg-your numbers are a little mixed up or you have found a way to cheat gravity.With a muzzle velocity of 3540fps my stw is 2-3/4" high at 100,3-1/2" high at 200,1" high at 300,about 6" low at 400 and 18" low at 500 yards.My dead zero is also around 320 to 330 yards.My loads are 60 fps under the 3600 you quote but that is nowhere enough to make 12" differece at 500 yards.I an using 140 gr ballistic tips which have a very high ballistic co-efficient and no bullet has a high enough ballistic co-efficient to make up that kind of difference.

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