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eldeguello 12-01-2005 06:02 AM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 

ORIGINAL: cataway

so if i walk up to the amo counter and say give me some of that SKS stuff, that gay that has been there for 10 years wont know what i'm talking about?
Depends on which ammo counter you walk up to! In Walmart, chances are pretty good they won't have a clue. But sometimes you get surprised in Walmart, too!

eldeguello 12-01-2005 06:07 AM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 

ORIGINAL: Briman

7.62 kurtz

When the Germans came up with the concept of the sturmgewehr which used an intermediate scaled back cartridge known as the 7.92x33, they called it the 7.92 or 8mm Kurtz. Seems like a logical name fof the Soviet's version of the 'assault rifle' carrtidge that they modeled after the German's.
It is a popular, oft-repeated MYTH that the 7.62X39mm is a copy of the German 7.92mm Kurz round. It is actually a parallel development which came to fruition at almost the same time as the German round. The Soviet designer Simonov (originator of the SKS) was experimenting with low-recoil, assault-type semioauto rifles as early as just after WWI. One of his rifles was even chambered for the 6.5X50 Jap cartridge, in his search for a low-recoil arm!

Briman 12-01-2005 06:55 AM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 
El- good info.

I had always thought that Mr Kalishnakov happened to poke around with a few captured STG-44s after the war and said to himself "gee this is a neat design, I think I'll copy it and improve on it a little in the process"

I didn't know Siminov was experimenting with intermediate rounds before the war, I had always assumed that the 7.62x39 was an adaptation of the German's concept, considering that the Russian gas operated semiautos contemporary to the STG-44 still fired full house 7.62x54r cartridges.

Drew Jaeger 12-03-2005 02:46 PM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 
7.62 Soviet.

frizzellr 12-03-2005 04:31 PM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 

7.62 Soviet
There arethree Soviet rounds that use 7.62 bullets so that wouldn't work.

cataway 12-03-2005 07:03 PM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 
just though of a nother name "30 PPC"

Drew Jaeger 12-04-2005 01:49 AM

RE: 7.62X39 needs a new name
 

ORIGINAL: frizzellr


7.62 Soviet
There arethree Soviet rounds that use 7.62 bullets so that wouldn't work.
The 7.62x39mm M43 assault rifle cartridge is also referred to as 7.62mm Soviet, 7.62mm Short, 7.62mm Warsaw Pact, or 7.62mm ComBloc. The 7.62x39mm is also known in the USA as the 30 Short Russian to distinguish it from the 30 Russian, which is the 7.62x54mmR.

The 7.62x54mm R rifle cartridge is the oldest cartridge still in use by any military in the world. It is also referred to as the 7.62mm Russian or as previously mentioned the 30 Russian.

The 7.62x25mm TT bottle-necked pistol cartridge is also referred to as the 7.62mm Tokarev or .30 Tokarev.


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