RE: 22/250 for deer
 

Same thoughts here!!

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

Most game can be taken with most calibers out there with a well placed shot. Doesn't mean that it is the best tool in the box. Idaho is another state that doesn't allow big game hunting with .22 caliber. Some of your larger calibers might allow you a better chance of retreival on game with a not so well placed shot. Had an uncle that took a lot of game in the 50's with a military .30-06 including a few elephants. The 06 was put in the closet after a bad experience with a lion.

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

I have had pretty much the same opinion about minimum deer calibers for years. However, the stuff they are doing down in Texas with the .22-6MM has been somewhat eye-opening. You might go to www.TTHA.com and look up that article Red Allison was talking about. These guys tried quite a few different bullets out of a 1:8 twist barrel. They had the best luck with the 75 to 80 grain bullets, and it appeared the best of those was the 75 grain Hornady A-Max.

I can't remember how many deer in a row they shot with this bullet, but every one of them went down in his tracks. I followed up with a call to Horace Gore and he indicated that they were getting more one-shot "lights out" kills with this caliber/bullet than they were with the .300 Weatherby.

The idea occurred to me try the 105 gr. 6MM A-Max in a 6MM-284. I couldn't get it to stabilize in a 10" twist, but last year I got a 9" Jeff Lawrence barrel and fitted it to a Remington short action. This bullet had pretty much the same effect on elk that the 75 grain .22 caliber version had on deer . . . . one shot lights out kill, hit in the ribs. It appears that these bullets penetrate well into the rib cage before even starting to expand, and then literally explode - creating a huge wound channel. On the elk, both lungs were pulverized and no fragment of the bullet made it to the ribs on the off side.

I don't know how many of you remember the old Western Open Point Expanding bullet that Jack O'conner used in his beloved .270 - but it was a bullet of similar concept. Delay the expansion enough to get it inside the animal, and then create a massive internal wound. These are not good bullets for inexperienced hunters or marginal marksmen - but with a well placed shot, are extremely lethal.

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

I want to make a retraction of my earlier post...after ready that link and some others I'm now a believer and trying to figure out how I'm gonna 22-250 setup for heavier bullets!!!!

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

Ive seen the 22-250 with standard 55 gr holow points blow huge holes in deer.
I shot a 11 point, 160 lb buck this year and also a90 lb doe with my .22 hornet, they both dropped in their tracks.
it's all about the man behind the gun.
if I really need to reach out and touch'em, i'll go for my .243.
I'm a big fan of fast small cartridges for deer, I think they offer more than a big chunk of lead just leaving a .30 cal. hole.

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

I believe that the 64-grain Winchester Power Point bullet is very good for deer, as is the 60 grain Nosler Partition and the Barnes X type bullets. Despite having adequate weight for such work, in my experience the 70 grain Speer semispitzer is a little soft for things much tougher than a coyote!

As regards the .224 TTH, I find it amusing that in this day and age, people are still waxing eloquentover what is nothing more or less than the old .22 Newton cartridgeof 100 years age-a 7X57mm Mauser (or 6mm Rem.) case necked down to .22,with a quick twist tube to stabilize long, heavy-for-caliber bullets. It was a good cartridge then, and still is-but it shore ain't 'nuthin' NEW, either in concept or capability!

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

I believe this is essentially the same effect that once caused people like Elmer Keith to conclude that "the .30/'06 is not adequate for anything bigger than jackrabbits", etc. Old Elmer and his buddies were using inadequate BULLETS in perfectly adequate cartridges! [/b]

John Nosler ended this problem in 1946, with the introduction of the Partition Jacket bullet.

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

i have to agree with all that the 22-250 is just not made for varmints that get that big,tho i have done it once to a deer at about 400yds . the deer was broadside to me with head down looking away, i put the cross hairs on its throat just above the jaw bone ,and hit it 2" higher but still on the center line of target .that deer went down so fast it was like i cut its head off.i was using a T/C encore ,55gr,bthp with 42gr.of H414 but that load was just to hot .so i backed it off to 39gr .the only other powder that gun liked was w760,a near clown of h414 .varget was ok with 40gr. bullets but i had no need for a bullet that lite.

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

Umm, you sure you don't mean 40 yards instead of 400?

RE: 22/250 for deer
 

I shot a doe at 75 yards with the 70 grain and it was lights out. But I found that the 60 grain Hornady SP has more energy and a lot better flight path than the 70 grain. The 60 grain needs a 16.5 twist to stablize it so the 1-14 Remington 700 stablizes it real well. The 60 grain has 1000 Foot pounds of energy at 250 yards so will handle the deer I hunt from 50 to 100 yards.