Barnes TSX triple shock.
#31
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In addition to the article in Petersons, Field and Stream's latest just had an similar article dealing primarily with bullets for magnums.Dave Petzal writes that the strong points for the TRX are "Very tough, very accurate and very streamlined". He writes that "they are as accurate as anything you can get. They expand exactly as scripted, have tremendous penetration and are also the only bullets recovered from his 'ballistic Buffalo' that retained 100% of their weight".
Very Interesting indeed.
Very Interesting indeed.
#33
Buckshot, I assume you mean higher max loads? Barnes state to use the x bullet for load development but it may be possible to exceed that by 1-2 grains like XLC. Key word is MAY! I have been toying with the TSX and the max load for x bullet appears to be ashigh as I would take it in this particular rifle. However in another rifle it may be possible to throw in a few extra grains. So like anything slowly work up until you reach your max for that particular rifle is the best policy.
So far this rifle likes 1 grain under published max the best I have tried and groupsvery well. Am going to try some .5 changes before settling the load just haven't had time or the weather cooperation to hit the range.
Not sure if that was what your referring to or asking, so if not disregard.[&:]
So far this rifle likes 1 grain under published max the best I have tried and groupsvery well. Am going to try some .5 changes before settling the load just haven't had time or the weather cooperation to hit the range.
Not sure if that was what your referring to or asking, so if not disregard.[&:]
#34
Typical Buck
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From: lebanon pa USA
Generally, you can load more powder and achieve a higher velocity using XLCs than you could using a standard bullet of equal weight. Barnes's reloading data for XLCs specifys this, and from what your saying you "maybe" and yes thatsa huge maybe, able to safetly exceed XLCs loading data. Being able to push the same weight bullet at 150fps plus was on ofthe main draws with I was reserching a load to use for elk in my 7mm-08.
#35
Buckshot, you maybe able to safely exceed any max load published in a particular rifle. However when using the TSX, Barnes clearly state to use the x bullet load data NOT the XLC (both on their website and in the pamphlet that comes inside the TSX bullet box themself). They do state it MAY be possible to exceed the regular x bullet published max load data by 1 - 2 when using the TSX. They further more state to NOT use the XLC load data for development as excessive pressure may result in some cases!!! The answser is NO regarding use or exceeding the XLC load data..according to Barnes.
You may havemis-worded your reply, but I wanted to clarify that I was refering to the X Bullet Load Data and not the XLC in terms of my previous post.
You may havemis-worded your reply, but I wanted to clarify that I was refering to the X Bullet Load Data and not the XLC in terms of my previous post.
#36
Typical Buck
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From: lebanon pa USA
Mmmmm, maybe Im not explaining this right. Max loads for barnes XLC bullets contain more powder than max loads for conventional bullets. This allows you to safely drive XLCs at a higher velocity than a conventional bullet. You are correct when saying that one should not use XLC loading data for TSXs, explains that right on their web site. My ? was is the max loading data for TSXs higher than the max loading data for conventional bullets? there for allowing me to safely drive a TSX bullet slightly faster than a conventional bullet, just like I can with a XLC. Whew I hope I nailed it this time. Lol. When I was reloading XLCs for my 7mm08 I actually couldnt put enough powder in the case to meet Barnes Max load. I was quite happy being able to push a 140gr XLC at 150fps faster than a conventional bullet.
#37
Yes your correct.
In my case using 7mm rem mag thepublished max load is 70gr of RL22 with barnes x 140gr bullet vs 67.5gr of RL 22 with a Nosler 140grbullet.
Your comment was:
Sorry just wanted to make sure b/c the XLC data shows a even higher max load than the regular x bullet. Ie: in my case 72grs of RL22for the 140gr XLC is the published max.
In my case using 7mm rem mag thepublished max load is 70gr of RL22 with barnes x 140gr bullet vs 67.5gr of RL 22 with a Nosler 140grbullet.
Your comment was:
from what your saying you "maybe" and yes thatsa huge maybe, able to safetly exceed XLCs loading data.
#38
Typical Buck
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From: Hickory NC USA
I have a load sheet for the Barnes tsx bullets in 270 wsm,and according to barnes their max load for the 130 and 140 tsx is .5 gr higher than the 130x and .5 less than the 130 xlc.
Don't know if they stopped at .5 grs because of pressure signs or that was their best load.
Does anyone have one of these sheets for the 300 wsm and 7/08?
Don't know if they stopped at .5 grs because of pressure signs or that was their best load.
Does anyone have one of these sheets for the 300 wsm and 7/08?
#39
Giant Nontypical
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From: fort mcmurray alberta canada
After a fair bit of testing with the 180gr tsx in my 300 ultramags I have decided to use them for my elk hunting this fall.Group size is around 3/4" for both rifles.This mornings five shot groups were .700" and .730" with the two rifles.However it was quite warm out and I did detect a slight resistance when lifting the bolt on one rifle so I will be reducing the powder charge for that rifle.The other rifle showed no pressure signs and velocity averaged 3400fps.I will chronograph the other rifle when I finalize the load.
#40
Sounds good Stubblejumper, let us know how it fairs on the elk end.
I too have been spenting time with this bullet and plan to use it for this falls hunts. That is if I can forget the AB load that shoots wonderfully, I really want to see how these perform. Anyway I have shot a pretty good pile of the Barnes in the past few months and have a few questions.
How are other TSX shooters or barnes in general, finding the copper fouling? How often are you cleaning your bore?
I expected a raise in the fouling and time to clean but am a bit suprised at how much I am pulling and nowcleaning after every range session (30 shots). I know everybody is different in their cleaning routine, etc just wondering what others are doing or finding.
Thanks
I too have been spenting time with this bullet and plan to use it for this falls hunts. That is if I can forget the AB load that shoots wonderfully, I really want to see how these perform. Anyway I have shot a pretty good pile of the Barnes in the past few months and have a few questions.
How are other TSX shooters or barnes in general, finding the copper fouling? How often are you cleaning your bore?
I expected a raise in the fouling and time to clean but am a bit suprised at how much I am pulling and nowcleaning after every range session (30 shots). I know everybody is different in their cleaning routine, etc just wondering what others are doing or finding.
Thanks


