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Old 01-10-2021, 08:49 AM
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Here's what happened. Trump blew it. You can't spend four years acting like a circus monkey, tell your supporters to throw away their mail-in ballots, then claim you’re the victim of a conspiracy when you lose. That’s what losers do. And pretty much the only Republican to lose in 2020 was the lifelong NYC liberal who broke Obama’s spending records.

No, Trump didn't lose it was stolen.


Conservatism is quickly becoming a culture of victimhood and entitlement. If you don’t get what you want, start crying that it was “stolen” from you.

They literally hacked a dominion machine on live TV, but Comrade Wang says we should not believe our lying eyes.

I've noticed that all you really do is post communist propaganda, Comrade ...Deleted by CalHunter....


Another scam by Johan Philyaw. He changed his name to “Jovan Pulitzer” after being accused of scamming investors. He connected to a county iPad downloading a voter database to check IDs, not a voting machine. He also says he found a “magic sword” left in America by Romans. People need to stop getting duped by internet grifters.

Forbes Magazine, the bastion of rich Republicans business people, reported on the 50 cases lost by Trump and his team:

I know, it's all crap. Nothing will ever shake the beliefs of Trump Republicans.


I want to believe the hand recounts confirming the machine count will debunk the Dominion conspiracy theory, but then I remember people who have seen the video of a plane hitting the Pentagon still think it was a missile.

I noticed you didn't address any of my questions but instead hide behind others. Typical Democrat as you hide behind Uncle Sam to get your hands in my wallet. The wheels are coming off if the Republicans refuse to do their duty per the Constitution and correct this fraud. You ain't seen nothing yet.


How do you square the “computers flipped the votes” conspiracy garbage with the fact the Dominion counts exactly match the by-hand counts of people’s original paper ballots?

And the lead witness in Guiliani’s Michigan case turned out to be a compulsive liar on criminal probation for stalking and sending sex tapes of herself. That’s why they have affidavits claiming “300% turnout” but the actual vote totals show it”s a lie.

You never explain how there have been no lawsuits alleging fraud.


That’s the problem. They don’t have an actual explanation. It’s just that posting a photo of unused, surplus ballots with the headline “BOMBSHELL: FAKE BALLOTS” gets you a lot of clicks and donations from people who can’t emotionally accept that Trump lost. Straight news isn’t as profitable as clickbait conspiracy theories. We now live in a social media bubble and entitlement culture where if reality hurts your feelings you can just pick a different reality.

Why did counting stop in all these swing States?


The vote count stopped because GOP ballot security laws in those states require absentee votes to be counted separately and after the election day votes.

Here you go. The Forensic Report on Atrium County, MI. If you recall, that was the county which is heavy republican yet reported Biden won. That is until the official took a deeper look. The AG of MI claimed it was human error. However, it was the software in the machine and not human error which changed the votes. Whats even more disturbing, a;; logs were removed from the system so you can't track whose finger prints got into those machines remotely which AREN'T to be connected to the internet.


The “forensic analysis” of Antrim County was performed by a debunked conspiracy theorist who released an earlier report “proving voter fraud in Michigan,” but the reason the voter turnout didn’t match registration was that he confused Michigan and Minnesota. And as for Antrim County, their own Republican officials say there was no machine fraud. You’re being scammed.

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thegatewaypundit is a fake news clickbait site. Remember when the Army got in a shootout with the CIA and found all the real ballots were in Germany? Or when Trump put secret watermarks on all the ballots and had the National Guard on standby to arrest Biden? Y’all need to stop getting your news from crackpots on the internet.

LOL! thought they had it!

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There hasn't been any evidence presented in court to date. Go back to my first statement way back. This isn't a court issue. Courts don't want to touch anything having to do with an election unless it's a liberal filing the claim. All these cases have been dismissedainly due to standing.


When you petition the court and you have literally no case, dismissal is automatic. Trump and his allies are 1-63 in court. And here’s an opinion from a Trump-appointed Federal judge:

Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are seri-ous.
But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.

The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair. But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is not a fraud case.” Mot. to Dismiss Hr’g Tr. 118:19–20, 137:18. Instead, it objects that Pennsylvania’s Secretary of State and some counties restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots. It offers nothing more.

This case is not about whether those claims are true. Rather, the Campaign appeals on a very narrow ground: whether the District Court abused its discretion in not letting the Campaign amend its complaint a second time. It did not.

Most of the claims in the Second Amended Complaint boil down to issues of state law. But Pennsylvania law is willing to overlook many technical defects. It favors counting votes as long as there is no fraud. Indeed, the Campaign has already litigated and lost many of these issues in state courts.

The Campaign tries to repackage these state-law claims as unconstitutional discrimina-tion. Yet its allegations are vague and conclusory. It never alleges that anyone treated the Trump campaign or Trump votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or Biden votes. And federal law does not require poll watchers or specify how they may observe. It also says nothing about curing technical state-law errors in ballots. Each of these defects is fatal, Case: 20-3371 Document: 91 Page: 2 Date Filed: 11/27/20203 and the proposed Second Amended Complaint does not fix them. So the District Court properly denied leave to amend again.

Nor does the Campaign deserve an injunction to undo Pennsylvania’s certification of its votes. The Campaign’s claims have no merit. The number of ballots it specifically chal-lenges is far smaller than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. And it never claims fraud or that any votes were cast by illegal voters. Plus, tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too. That remedy would be grossly disproportionate to the procedural challenges raised. So we deny the motion for an injunction pending appeal.


It's you who have ignored the evidence. It's you who has dismissed the data showing Biden under performed across the country except in a handful of democrat controlled cities where the numbers just don't match anything remotely and show all the signs of fraud. I've taken high level math classes in college due to my technical degree. Those numbers don't happen in naturally in nature. They point to complete fraud. How can Biden get 15 million more votes over Obama and win with 1/3rd less counties? You as I pointed out, wanted more evidence. Yet as more and more is exposed of this fraud, it's not enough.


You keep claiming “evidence” but can’t explain why every single recount and audit shows the machine counts always match people's original paper ballots exactly. The “evidence” is all you claiming things for which you have no actual evidence. And Trump alienated suburban voters and depressed his rural performance. He blew it, and some people can’t accept that because they've personally attached their identity to him.

The Democrats got caught. This here is a MAJOR smoking gun. One of these folks will talk when the FBI comes a knocking. Caught pulling suit cases of ballots out


I love how the “four suitcases” all have the exact same large white label as the dozens of other “suitcases” sitting out in the open, and appear to just be wheeled hardtop bins.

So far it's been shown that Dominion has been lying.


Wrong. The woman Giuliani claimed was a “Dominion tech” with inside company knowledge was hired by a temp agency to clean glass for a day. She had just gotten off probation after lying to police about stalking her boyfriend’s ex and sending her porn videos of herself.

Remember, our machines can't be connected to internet? We have several pieces of evidence shoeing that statement is a lie.


Not only was it not a Dominion voting machine it didn’t prove “the machines are connected to the Internet.” Remotely hacking computers through an air gap predates the Internet.

Why were the logs destroyed to the adjudication records? Why were the majority of ballots (over 90%)'sent to the adjudication file?


That Fulton County claim has been debunked. You can call any county or city election board and get the results. Every single hand recount of every original paper ballot, everywhere in the US, matches the machine count. You’re using the same mental loopholes and coping mechanisms as 9/11 conspiracy theorists. A sure sign you're dealing with a fake conspiracy theory: nothing disproves it. Every recount and audit that shows the totals were counted correctly becomes part of the conspiracy. And no one disproves it. Everyone who points out the election was conducted correctly is “paid off”.

Why did election officials lie about a pipe burst, tell everyone to go home because counting was over for the night only to continue to count once everyone not apart of their tight team were gone?


There was a burst pipe, and nothing was processed while it was being repaired. This was debunked a month ago.

Why was there a coordinated efforts to kick out Republican poll watchers? Why hasn't GA officials (PA officials as well) refuse to turn over the chain of custody receipts for the absentee ballots? Why are GA election officials blocking access to the Fulton county absentee ballots for forensic audit?


Wow. The problem is that you are getting all your information from “RedElephant79320” and aren’t exposed to any evidence or proof that whatever you want to believe may be wrong. Social media has let you pick your own reality. That’s the thing about the internet. If you don’t like reality you can go to Google and search for a different one.

WHY WERE VOTING MACHINES CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET?????You would think since all this voter fraud is just Mae up the media would be eagar to prove that fact instead of writing false narratives that somehow there is no evidence of voter fraud m. The media has gone from there is no evidence of voter fraud to there wasn't enough to change the outcome. Why did they cheat I the first place? Just to come close?


Every audit and recount shows no fraud, your fake news clickbait sites and Twitter scammers don’t report it.

This was a massive very fraud election.


They’ve recounted people’s original paper ballots repeatedly and audited the signature repeatedly. The audits and by-hand recounts, everywhere, show there was no mass fraud and the election results were correct. When Biden beats Obama’s totals in Wyoming, Idaho, and Oklahoma, that’s not “Democrat voter fraud.” And the supposed “massive voter fraud ring” in Alleghany County threw out the House Democrats' leader. At some point, people have to accept the fact Trump blew it. You're not going to defeat liberals with excuses and conspiracy theories.

What Republicans need to walk away with is the fact election can't be changed due to voter fraud. So go out there and commit all the fraud they want next time since it can't ever be challenged.


If you blame your own failures on conspiracy theories Democrats are going to keep beating you. I guarantee you there are 12,831 people across Arizona who would have voted for Trump, but for various reasons, missed election day, and would have voted for Trump had he not told them that having 30 days to vote from home was a conspiracy.

This was a fraudulent election.


Every hand recount of people's original paper ballots, everywhere, shows the machines counted the votes exactly. “Dominion stole the election” is a complete hoax. In fact, it’s the same hoax liberals cooked up in 2004 when they falsely claimed Diebold machines flipped votes. And there are fewer errors now that most states use optical scan. Maricopa County, where supposedly Dominion flipped Trump’s votes, did a hand recount of the original ballots. The machine count was 100% accurate, with no errors in any race in any precinct.

Courts have no say in this in the end. It's up to Congress and the state legislators to correct this wrong.


It’s up to voters and 81 million made Joe Biden winner.

However, as I pointed out. Since election fraud on this massive scale isn't reviewable, I sure hope the GOP remember this come 2022 and 2024. Open the floodgates for as far as I'm concerned


You’re not going to beat liberals with fake conspiracy theories, and fake conspiracy theories are why voters left one notable candidate out of the “red wave.”

Vote multiple times. Have your secretary of state implement voter ID the morning of the election. Implement the strictest signature verification possible on every absentee ballot. Go full bore on all this crap. It's not reviewable as we have found out.


Every absentee/mail ballot is bar coded to a voter. Once a ballot is counted, they can’t vote again and any other ballot is discarded. The list of everyone who voted is public. If they voted again, totals wouldn’t match.

First, they didn't file against Rudy and the Trump campaign. This suit is against Sydney Powell. Yes, you should look for discovery. This is a huge step forward in actually getting to the truth.


The big problem for Dominion truthers: If the algorithm recorded marked votes for Trump as votes for Biden, why did every hand recount of the original paper ballots match the computer counts exactly? Trumpers never have an answer for that. Same vote switch stunt Democrats pulled in 2004. They just did a search and replace of “Diebold” and “Sequoia” for “Dominion” and “Smartmatic.”

This opens the door to learning a lot about why there so many ballots had been sent to adjudication. This also will do a deep dive into the software. I've read several excerpts from the supposed manual on how they can adjust votes. I've also seen video of head of software confirming to officials on how they can change votes. I also saw videos on how they can create votes.


You’re not going to beat liberals with hoaxes and conspiracy theories. Trump’s own White House appointees say his “deleted votes” conspiracy theory is fake. “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.” And Biden beat Obama’s 2008 vote records in Idaho and Oklahoma, two of the most Republican states in America. They don’t use Dominion.

So I guess we will all find out. The fact they filled means they can't get could feet and say, just kidding. Now they made it official and defamed Powell if they do.


Over 60+ lawsuits by Trump and his allies dismissed (world record!) with no evidence of fraud. GA confirmed Biden won after a risk-limiting audit. AZ also audited Biden’s victory. PA counties are required to do audits before certification, which Biden won.

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Which all kinda brings us back to this:

It appears that the democrats got their vast coalition of criminals, looters, arsonists, imbeciles, idiots, parasites, perverts, brainwashed a$$clowns, scum-sucking low-lifes, morons, and traitors out to vote. Congratulations on the death of the Republic.
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Old 01-11-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ipscshooter View Post
Which all kinda brings us back to this:

It appears that the democrats got their vast coalition of criminals, looters, arsonists, imbeciles, idiots, parasites, perverts, brainwashed a$$clowns, scum-sucking low-lifes, morons, and traitors out to vote. Congratulations on the death of the Republic.
So, how do you describe the Trump-supporting rioters who invaded the Capitol? "Criminals, looters, arsonists, imbeciles, idiots, parasites, perverts, brainwashed a$$clowns, scum-sucking low-lifes, morons, and traitors" seems to fit.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:38 PM
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It seems that baby fawn is back.
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Beau Ouiville View Post
So, how do you describe the Trump-supporting rioters who invaded the Capitol? "Criminals, looters, arsonists, imbeciles, idiots, parasites, perverts, brainwashed a$$clowns, scum-sucking low-lifes, morons, and traitors" seems to fit.
Antifa, and proof on Nancys laptop that she was communicating with them to set up Trump supporters, you really ain't that smart are ya?
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Isn't it strange that leftists who never posted before or on any other forum like the op and others, suddenly pop up and only post in the political forum, I wonder who they are working for. Perhaps someone whose last name begins with an S!

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They cheated or they did t , it’s over now let’s get on with life the commies won either we live with it or take it back that’s the options and we know what’s gonna happen
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner View Post
Antifa, and proof on Nancys laptop that she was communicating with them to set up Trump supporters, you really ain't that smart are ya?
"On Saturday, Jessica Davis, a press representative for the FBI, told The Dispatch Fact Check: “At this time we have no credible intelligence suggesting Antifa involvement in Wednesday’s criminal activity. However, the investigation is ongoing and we are aggressively working to identify all individuals involved, no matter their association.” Other officials with the FBI and the Department of Justice have made similar statements denying evidence of Antifa’s participation in the attack on Congress. "

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/...ate-rep-claims

Now, prove what was in the contents of Rep. Pelosi's laptop. Don't just continue a hoax statement.

"An aide close to Pelosi, who has been re-elected for the post, confirmed that a laptop that belonged to Pelosi was stolen during the riots. The laptop, according to the aide, belonged "to a conference room and was used for presentations". The second laptop stolen belonged to a Democratic senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon.
The acting US attorney, Michael Sherwin, has revealed that the stolen laptops may pose threats to "national security equities". However, the content of the laptops have not been revealed by any officials."
https://www.wionews.com/world/theft-...concern-355602

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No one on the left will admit there was fraud , No one on the right is gonna say there wasn’t fraud And neither side will ever know because the crooked folks won’t prove it one way or another ... it’s over Biden gets in and the country will pay for it plain and simple , ya know I could care less about all the crooked chit they do if they would just take care of our nation and it’s people first and leave our rights alone it’s that simple
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Originally Posted by WV 67 View Post
No one on the left will admit there was fraud ,
I'll admit there was fraud -- there always is some. But like Bill Barr said, there was not enough fraud to change the results. Trump lost.


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