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COVID mortality rate in US 2.8 per 100,000: Johns Hopkins

Old 10-06-2020, 10:15 AM
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So we turned "15 days to flatten the curve" into "9 months to reshape the election" over a 2.8 per 100k death rate?

That's a 97.2% survival rate overall, and we know that thousands upon thousands of "COVID deaths" really had almost nothing to do with covid (one of the categories on the CDC site is "Accidents and other"- and it accounts for about 6k deaths all by itself), as well as the fact that the overwhelming majority of that small % that did die were, as a UK report i posted here clearly stated, "Already in the final stage of life."

IOW, very old, very sick people with multiple often fatal co morbidities. (for instance Herman Cain- the man had stage 4 colon cancer!)

What have we done to ourselves?

And what are we allowing our politicians to still do to us, in the name of "science?"

I urge complete and total societal disobedience with regard to all things covid.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

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Old 10-06-2020, 12:16 PM
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I generally agree. We have done much harm to ourselves. It was probably unnecessary. The goal posts have very considerably been moved from "flatten the curve" and avoid overrunning the hospitals. That goal was achieved LONG, LONG ago, but we are still in this crazy COVID mania.

We do lockdowns to prevent COVID deaths but don't consider the fallout of the lockdowns on other things -- suicides resulting from being depressed from being shut in, suicides that result because people have lost their jobs and their finances go to crap, substance abuse that happens because people have nothing better to do with their time. We don't take any account of people who don't go see their doctors -- or CAN'T see their doctors -- because of COVID and that causes severe health consequences for lack of medical attention.

The thing I feel most strongly about is the trampling down of individual liberties involved in the way COVID is being handled. Churches not being allowed to hold services? Synagogues being threatened with closure in New York City? We are talking about first amendment rights here, infringed and suppressed by state and city governments. This is NOT an imagined issue . . . this is a real issue and it is high on the list of civil rights -- in fact, it is #1 on the list of civil rights: the first amendment. Rights to free assembly too are being suppressed (also the first amendment). We are letting governors and mayors suppress these rights under dubious authority and where the risks are so low? And nobody has a problem with that? When I say "dubious" I mean I think that all these figures are asserting that a state of emergency exists and that it is the state of emergency that gives them this authority to suppress the most fundamental of civil rights -- you know, the ones protected by the FIRST amendment! FIRST means first, important, essential. State of emergency?! Really?! Hell no. There is no damned state of emergency. They don't have the right to impose these orders.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:55 PM
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Have no fear, Amy Comey Barrett will restore our 1st amendment rights once she is on SCOTUS.

Oh, wait....she was part of a 7th circuit 3 panel judge (2 appointed by Trump) who voted unanimously to UPHOLD Illinois' restrictions on political and religious gatherings

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ht-rule-422055
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Old 10-06-2020, 03:19 PM
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This about sums it up

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images...2d3d2c2efd.jpg
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Old 10-06-2020, 05:01 PM
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Interesting data. they put both of our nextdoor neighbors with much case fatality rates. Canada with their much revered healthcare has 5.6% and Mexico has 10.4% which is yet another reason to build the wall.
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Old 10-06-2020, 08:20 PM
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According to the below video, these are the latest CDC fatality rates by age:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4hrHAefWaY

0-19 years old: 0.00003%
20-49: 0.0002%
50-69: 0.005%
70+: 0.054%
Seasonal flu: 0.1%

I have not independently verified these figures, but they are floating around on facebook too. Trying to get a link to them on CDC so i dont have to go through the whole site to find them myself.

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Old 10-07-2020, 04:36 AM
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Well the numbers are legit, here they are on the CDC site:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...s.html#table-1

SCENARIO 5: Best Current Estimate
Infection Fatality Ratio

0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054
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Old 10-10-2020, 02:18 PM
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To put that US death per 100k from COVID19 rate of 2.8 into perspective, the US homicide rate is 5.3 per 100k....nearly 2x as high.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_..._United_States
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:00 PM
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...but we are still in this crazy COVID mania.
It doesn't help that the "news" media keeps pumping out the fear porn. Sadly my wife watches the nightly news; I just shake my head because every night it is the same stuff: cases, pandemic, cases, unprecedented, cases....blah, blah, blah.
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:10 PM
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My view is a little different, 58,220 died in the Vietnam conflict in around a ten year period. 206,000 COVID in an eight-month period is significant, 415,800 U.S. military personnel died in WWII we are almost halfway to that total in months not years.
Even if you halve the COVID total due to fatality inflation, it is still significant,
And the long term health effects of the virus are largely unknown. It may do significant organ or circulatory damage.
I say take it seriously, wear a mask even if a mask is only ten percent effective (number pulled from my rectal orifice) it is still better than no percent. Be responsible, social distance. Limit exposure to possible contacts.
My wife is nuts, for her shopping is a social thing and she insists on shopping many days a week. I go grocery shopping three times a month. The only significant exposure I have is her. She has a sore throat now hopefully it is only a cold. Snot season is right around the corner, face masks full of snot aren't going to be pretty, the spread is liable to accelerate.
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