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Old 05-09-2020, 11:02 AM
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There are 9 states that never closed at all and they are on average doing better than the states that closed.

I could see locking down NYC, since that is by far the epicenter of all this.

As far as Chloroquine,

"To date, the total number of reported patients treated with HCQ, with or without zinc and the widely used antibiotic azithromycin, is 2,333, writes AAPS, in observational data from China, France, South Korea, Algeria, and the U.S. Of these, 2,137 or 91.6 percent improved clinically. "

That is pretty compelling statistical data.
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Old 05-09-2020, 12:47 PM
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Why didnt we go in that direction? On another front the only drug proven to help covid patients is remdesivir. It is reported that there are only 200k doses worldwide. I wonder how quickly the drug can be made?
The FRENCH, have said otherwise. As I have pointed out to YOU before.

As have OTHER NATIONS. Only WE, the US, have said that HCQ doesn't' work.
And the Brazilian study, was done with EXTREME high doses, NOT used to treat patients.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102549/

And in the most recent study, its the MOST SEVER patients who are being treated with HCQ, that are not having the best results that were found in the French study.
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Old 05-09-2020, 02:15 PM
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It's amazing that even after the Association of American Physicians and surgeons says it is working in over 90% of patients world wide, the MSM keeps right on lying to us.

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It's amazing that even after the Association of American Physicians and surgeons says it is working in over 90% of patients world wide, the MSM keeps right on lying to us.
Not that your obligated, but can you qualify the AAPS?
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Old 05-10-2020, 08:26 AM
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What do you mean by qualify the AAPS?
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Old 05-10-2020, 01:33 PM
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Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients

https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/


aapsonline.org/evidence-hydroxychloroquine/

Where’s the Evidence on COVID-19 Treatment?

Share: The American Medical Association and many other professional organizations demand “peer-reviewed science” before they will recommend or even accept the re-purposing of a long-established anti-malaria drug to treat or prevent COVID-19. In Arizona, use of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for prophylaxis in medical workers is “strictly forbidden” by Executive Order of Gov. Doug Ducey unless peer-reviewed evidence becomes available. In all but four states, prescribing or dispensing HCQ for COVID-19 is restricted.

We have known about COVID-19 for about four months; it can take years to plan, complete, and publish a randomized, double-blind controlled study. However, in 2005, the CDC Special Pathogens Branch described three mechanisms by which chloroquine might work and have both a prophylactic and therapeutic role in coronavirus infections. More than 20 relevant studies have been published in journals indexed in PubMed between Jan 28 and April 20, 2020.

AAPS concludes that: “the safety of Hydroxychloroquine is well documented. When the safe use of this drug is projected against its apparent effect of decreasing the progression of early cases to ventilator use, it is difficult to understand the reluctance of the authorities in charge of U.S. pandemic management to recommend its use in early COVID-19 cases.”

Additionally, AAPS is compiling observational results reported from China, France, South Korea, Algeria, and the U.S. Of 2,333 patients treated with HCQ, 2,137 or 91.6 percent improved clinically. There were 63 deaths, all but 11 in a single retrospective report from the Veterans Administration where the patients were severely ill.

Apr 27 data show that U.S. COVID-19 death rates are at least eight times higher than in countries with early and prophylactic use of HCQ.
Opinion leaders should be demanding to know why this treatment option is not widely discussed or might even be forbidden.

For further information, see the May issue of AAPS News and our compendium of Corona Virus Articles.
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Old 05-10-2020, 01:35 PM
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AMA Prefers Death to Treating without Data, States the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

TUCSON, Ariz., April 9, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- American Medical Association president Patrice Harris, M.D., told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she would not prescribe hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to a patient with COVID-19. It would be "inappropriate prescribing" because the FDA has not approved the drug for this new virus. It might have negative side effects, including deaths. Also, we need to keep supplies available for patients who have lupus and other conditions she said. For COVID, "it is unproven…. At this point we just don't have the data."

In response, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) released the following statement:

"Chloroquine (CQ) and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) have been FDA approved for about 70 years and have been extensively and safely used worldwide for malaria and other conditions. Obtaining approval for a new indication is extremely costly and usually takes years. Although drugs cannot be marketed for an 'off-label' indication, they may be prescribed, and probably one in five prescriptions is off label.

"The Oath of Hippocrates states that physicians have the duty to 'prescribe according to my ability and my judgment.'

"So far, data are showing successful results, even in some patients who were near death. Results appear to be best when HCQ is given early in combination with zinc and the common antibiotic azithromycin. Data pouring in from many countries show that as many as 98 percent of patients improve with this treatment, and there is very little risk, according to our tabulation, which is being updated periodically.

"There are NO FDA-approved preventives or therapies for this novel illness. The ethical and humane action is for physicians to prescribe remedies for which there is a scientific basis and favorable current experience. These include HCQ as well as high-dose intravenous vitamin C. The alternative is to deny patients the best available chance to live.

"FDA bureaucracy has delayed testing and obstructed the provision of protective gear. Professional societies like the AMA, governors, and medical and pharmacy boards should not be forbidding the long-accepted practice of prescribing FDA-approved drugs for newly discovered uses. This unprecedented interference with the practice of medicine could result in thousands of needless deaths, and delay control of a deadly pandemic."

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) has represented physicians of all specialties since 1943. Its motto is omnia pro aegroto—everything for the patient.

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Old 05-10-2020, 02:11 PM
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When politics are involved all common sense goes right out the window.
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