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Old 03-28-2020, 05:40 AM
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Partisan politics aside I ask how smart is Trump. Listening to him talk is a challenge for me. Continuous repetitions and uses the same phrases over and over. The word incredible is used so often especially when talking about himself, that it has lost its effectiveness. When I read the actual transcripts of his q and a sessions they are hard to follow. He jumps from one subject to another all in the same sentence and doesn't finish the first subject. He is ok when reading off the monitor but doesnt seem to stay with it then goes off on his own with ramblings almost always touting himself. I know most on here think he is the 2nd coming and that is ok with me. I never liked him right from the beginning but reluctantly voted for him as the best available over Hillary. I dont feel confident that he has what it takes to be a leader. He would however make a fine dictator.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:39 AM
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The thing about Trump is he didn't have 30 years in politics to learn how to talk like a politician. He is basically a construction worker in an expensive suit and I for one like the fact he does not speak like a politician. Remember it was career politicians with their polished words that screwed everything up and set the stage for Trump to win in 2016. He was not my first choice in the last race. I liked Cruz and then Rubio. However neither of those 2 could have beat Broom Hilda. Trump was the only one that could do it and I had absolutely no issues pulling the lever for him considering the alternative. As the your blurb about him "making a fine dictator" I think that is a pretty foolish statement. I have seen nothing dictatorial in anything he has done. Quite the opposite he has come down on the side of the people and the constitution a lot more than he has come down against them. The ones you have to worry about in being dictators is whoever the DEMs nominate.

Normally I see pretty much eye to eye on you but on this you have your knickers in a knot for no reason. Trump will be reelected in Nov. You may as well come to grips with it. Or do you really want Crazy Uncle Joe or another DEM miscreant running the show?
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:53 AM
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There has to be someone better. I watch all his press conferences since I am stuck at home and listening to him constantly praising himself gets old. A couple days ago he was making a big deal about the ventilator shortage and basically saying Cuomo was wrong then he enacts that defense rule and has GM start making them. It looks like when the Trump show comes on he says things and the next day his handlers have to do damage control. 3 weeks ago he said the virus wasn't a big deal. I dont think the guy can see anything other than his own image in the mirror. I had a narcisst in the family but thank God he got divorced out. There are so many similarities between that jerk and Trump it is shocking so I I am probably bothered by the self centered and never taking the blame actions more than most people. I think his decision making is single focused and therefore dangerous.
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander View Post
There has to be someone better. I watch all his press conferences since I am stuck at home and listening to him constantly praising himself gets old. A couple days ago he was making a big deal about the ventilator shortage and basically saying Cuomo was wrong then he enacts that defense rule and has GM start making them. It looks like when the Trump show comes on he says things and the next day his handlers have to do damage control. 3 weeks ago he said the virus wasn't a big deal. I dont think the guy can see anything other than his own image in the mirror. I had a narcisst in the family but thank God he got divorced out. There are so many similarities between that jerk and Trump it is shocking so I I am probably bothered by the self centered and never taking the blame actions more than most people. I think his decision making is single focused and therefore dangerous.
Yet not one thing in that comment has anything to do with him acting dictatorial. That's my point. Now, I am going to ask you directly: What has Trump done that is indicative of him acting like a dictator? I want specifics, not just a talking point. I await your answer. First off you have to begin with the accepted definition of a dictator. I will help you with that:

Dictator
NOUN
  1. a ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained control by force
  2. a person who behaves in an autocratic way.
  3. (in ancient Rome) a chief magistrate with absolute power, appointed in an emergency
Which one are you going to go with?
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:48 AM
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TRUMP would certainly not need to repeat himself as often if the idiots in the media,
spent less effort asking reworded questions,
in every press briefing, while trying everything they can think up, to get him to say something,
they can use to twist , cherry pick, or misquote or take out of context ,
or use something he said while under far different than the current circumstances or timeline,

to try to advance the socialist agenda and make TRUMP look bad,

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Old 03-28-2020, 09:01 AM
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I would go with number 2. It must be me but it always seems that loyal Trump supporters take the same path as he does...always blame everyone else. This guy isnt right. My opinion of course and one that is in the minority around here but that is ok with me. He says and does so many bad things there are too many to list. I heard a tape of him calling out the governors and specifically"that woman" in Michigan. Something to the affect of they didnt respect me so I wont call them to help in this crisis. Really??? Who does that except someone with some severe mental issues. That old fable the emperors new clothes comes to mind. Well I am not afraid to call it like I see it.
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:13 AM
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Minority opinion is always welcome.
Maybe NOT agreed with, but certainly welcome (at least by me anyway).

I'm for one glad to have him. He's getting things done.
One thing i've learned by watching him. He repeats the IMPORTANT things. And not the insignificant things.
He's a PROMOTER, of all things.
With a LARGE contingent arrayed against him. Unlike obama, who didn't have to promote anything. The media was his parrot shill at every turn, silencing ANY negative articles.
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:34 AM
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If you want to see "dictator" mentality, go over the 8 years with Obama for reference. Trump was correct in the fact that this covid 19 crap is being seriously overblown. Of all the deaths with this virus, 99% of them have been people that a bad case of the flu would have more than likely killed. Notice that the media only puts the number of deaths out there. Never do they put the age or condition of the patient. Except for the very very few young ones and all of them had pulminary issues to begin with. N1H1 killed far more people world wide in half the time and there was barely a blip in the media about it. The dems latched on to this like a pit bull on a ham bone and the world wide panic began. All to try to gainsay Trump.

Is he a great president? Not the greatest but to put things in perspective, he has gotten a hell of a lot more done, with 100 times more opposition, than a lot of presidents ever dreamed of.
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:34 AM
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Do I think he has gotten some good things done...yes. Is he better than Obama...yes but that bar is way too low to satisfy my expectations of a leader.
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Old 03-28-2020, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander View Post
I would go with number 2. It must be me but it always seems that loyal Trump supporters take the same path as he does...always blame everyone else. This guy isnt right. My opinion of course and one that is in the minority around here but that is ok with me. He says and does so many bad things there are too many to list. I heard a tape of him calling out the governors and specifically"that woman" in Michigan. Something to the affect of they didnt respect me so I wont call them to help in this crisis. Really??? Who does that except someone with some severe mental issues. That old fable the emperors new clothes comes to mind. Well I am not afraid to call it like I see it.
OK. Lets pick that apart. First off the definition of autocratic has nothing to do with blaming someone else. What the word means is that someone absolutely refuses to accept any advice or viewpoint other than their own even to the detriment of all. That is what the word means. It has nothing at all to do with saying things or calling people out. Now I will admit that Trump often appears as though he will not accept and advice or opposing viewpoints but, and this is a very big but, he always does in the end and that is the direct opposite of being an autocrat.

For the record I don't like all the things he says or the way he says them. But words do not the dictator make. Actions do. If you have your knickers in a knot because of words then you need to evaluate your words and possibly do an edit. Accusing someone of being in the company of Hitler and Stalin is a pretty serious accusation. You want to try again? Because you failed on that one.
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