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Old 01-14-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by grouch55 View Post
TTo all you Trump tweet neh sayers ! 1 Question please ! Looking at the fake news coverage Of the President how would you try to get your message out on a regular basis.? On CNN ? LOL MSNBC LOL LOL LOL CBS LOL ABC LOL NBC LOL
Oh Its simple, they would be more dignified, draw no attention, and concede our country to the crazy left that is more than willing to lie cheat and steal to win. By golly they would look good doing it and allow our country to be destroyed with class though because that is whats important.

Lets just be honest those republicans complaining about Trump and his twitter would have nominated a loser, Hillary Clinton would be President, we'd have 3 new liberal SC justices instead of 2 new conservative supreme court justices(5 judge swing) , have more useless war, more taxes, less jobs, lower pay, more illegals and the list goes on and on.

In short a well intentioned but absolute disaster is what they would have gave us. A disaster which we likely NEVER recover from. They would have finished us off for the rest of our lifetimes and left our children in a liberal cesspool.

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Old 01-14-2020, 09:09 AM
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Rocky I would question "well intentioned". They are bound and determined to turn our country into a socialist crap hole.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:23 AM
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Rocky I would question "well intentioned". They are bound and determined to turn our country into a socialist crap hole.
I was referring to republicans complaining about Trump and his tweets not liberals. Liberals in my experience are mostly immoral people looking for cheap effortless ways to feel good about themselves.

Champlain Islander is the kind of person I'm talking about who I think would probably nominate a loser for respectable and well intentioned reasons like say Ted Cruz (who had some trouble beating Beto in Texas) and lose to Hillary and the rest would be history

I mean the stakes are just high for us to be making that mistake.

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Old 01-14-2020, 11:31 AM
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OK, I misunderstood.
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:32 PM
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You're definitely right about one thing, Rockport. A Hillary win would have been a nightmare for the country. In 2016, I didn't much care who the Republican nominee was. Going into the booth I was thinking "Find the Hillary Clinton box and check the other one".

Trump has, I'm happy to say, exceeded my expectations as President.
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rockport View Post
I was referring to republicans complaining about Trump and his tweets not liberals. Liberals in my experience are mostly immoral people looking for cheap effortless ways to feel good about themselves.

Champlain Islander is the kind of person I'm talking about who I think would probably nominate a loser for respectable and well intentioned reasons like say Ted Cruz (who had some trouble beating Beto in Texas) and lose to Hillary and the rest would be history

I mean the stakes are just high for us to be making that mistake.
First of all I hold no affiliation to any party. When something is broken I feel I can express my opinion regardless of party involved. My views generally aren't left and are most likely conservative/ centrist overall. I don't like Trump...never have. Since he was voted into the POTUS spot (he got my vote since the alternative was Hillary) I do like some of his accomplishments. My personal opinion is he has some pretty severe physiological problems but then again so did Hillary. I pinched my nose and cast the ballot for him hoping he would grow into the image of president. Truth be told I certainly would have liked to see Cruz or Rubio on the ballot instead of Trump. When one follows Trump through his tweets and press releases it is easy to see he is far from a normal person and I am not saying that in a good way. The guy scares me and if for some reason the impeachment did remove him from office I would feel relieved and look forward for Pence to carry on with a conservative agenda. If that did happen I would feel very comfortable voting for him in 2020.

Adder...good day on the ice. Got about 60 pounds of jumbo perch. At 11 I only had my pail bottom covered. Started back to the truck which was a mile away and figured i would cut and fish my way to shore. Hit a school of big ones and in around 45 minutes iced a bunch of jumbos a few of which were over a pound. Regardless of politics fishing info is good stuff.

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Old 01-14-2020, 03:29 PM
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Quite frankly, I believe that Trump was the right person at the right time to be President because he isn't beholding to anyone and has the best for our nation in mind instead of the best for a political party! If a Demorat had been elected we would already be on our way down the drain!
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr View Post
Quite frankly, I believe that Trump was the right person at the right time to be President because he isn't beholding to anyone and has the best for our nation in mind instead of the best for a political party! If a Demorat had been elected we would already be on our way down the drain!
I didn't feel that way at the time, but in retrospect, I agree with you. He was what this country needed, especially after 8 years of apologizer-in-chief.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander View Post
First of all I hold no affiliation to any party. When something is broken I feel I can express my opinion regardless of party involved. My views generally aren't left and are most likely conservative/ centrist overall. I don't like Trump...never have. Since he was voted into the POTUS spot (he got my vote since the alternative was Hillary) I do like some of his accomplishments. My personal opinion is he has some pretty severe physiological problems but then again so did Hillary. I pinched my nose and cast the ballot for him hoping he would grow into the image of president. Truth be told I certainly would have liked to see Cruz or Rubio on the ballot instead of Trump. When one follows Trump through his tweets and press releases it is easy to see he is far from a normal person and I am not saying that in a good way. The guy scares me and if for some reason the impeachment did remove him from office I would feel relieved and look forward for Pence to carry on with a conservative agenda. If that did happen I would feel very comfortable voting for him in 2020.

Adder...good day on the ice. Got about 60 pounds of jumbo perch. At 11 I only had my pail bottom covered. Started back to the truck which was a mile away and figured i would cut and fish my way to shore. Hit a school of big ones and in around 45 minutes iced a bunch of jumbos a few of which were over a pound. Regardless of politics fishing info is good stuff.
Yeah that is the part I don't understand. Rubio or Cruz on the ballot almost certainly = Hillary winning.

Trump does not have severe physiological problems. He is playing a part and like it or not that is how he won. He simply knows how to play the game.

I 100% understand things are not the way you want them to be.

We just had this scenario play out in IL. We had a weak republican governor, conservatives didn't like him and he wasn't what I want either, we had a strong conservative with no chance of winning jump in the race, Some conservatives railed against our weak republican governor campaigning for this new strong conservative. Result? J.B. freakin Pritzker is our new governor, we got exactly the opposite of what we wanted because republicans made incredibly foolish decisions and now we are paying a VERY heavy price.

Its not just you, lots of people think this way. I guess I just vote differently.

I vote for what I think will work the best not what I like the best.

I just can't imagine still wishing Cruz or Rubio would have won the primary. At this point to me that is basically wishing Hillary was the president.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:51 AM
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A lot said here recently. I agree Trump was the needed candidate -- not just to win but to get useful stuff done. Rubio would have acted as an establishment president. He would have served us poorly. We are where we are -- in a bad place -- because establishment politics has held sway in the US at least since after Reagan left office. Cruz MIGHT have gotten useful stuff done, but I'm not even sure about that. It is my recollection -- and my memory is not perfect, so I may be wrong on this -- that before Trump entered the race NO ONE was talking about our bad trade deals and NO ONE was talking about our illegal immigrant problem. In my mind these are very high up on the list of our problems. I think Trump has taken positive actions on these two issues, albeit his success has been limited (he needs cooperation from Congress, and he hasn't gotten much of that -- even from Republicans). Changes in these two areas are attacks on the establishment. The establishment benefits financially from the status quo -- unlimited inflow of illegal immigrants and cheap imported goods that kill jobs for middle class Americans but benefits the establishment greatly. Rubio certainly would not have moved the ball on these things; I'm not confident Cruz would have moved the ball on these things.

One of Trump's strengths is he doesn't care that he does not use the language our leftist/progressive/Democrats/media elite have decided we must use to appease them. Other Republican politicians are easily cowed and coerced by the news media and complaints of using non-PC language and what all.

By the way, it is not just supreme court justices Trump has appointed. He has appointed many, many lower court judges, and these lower court judges are also important. Remember, Hillary would have been appointing those lower court judges too, not just supreme court justices. Have you ever heard of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals? There have been a number of appointments by Trump to that court.

I just don't care what Trump tweets. I'm not going to play the game of damning the man because of what he says. I look at what he does, and what he does is better than what Obama did, better than what Hillary would have done, arguably better than what Bush did. Actions count. Words are noise, to a large extent.

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