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Old 12-04-2019, 11:08 AM
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So does this mean these Democrat hacks as so called experts are claiming a future Republican House only needs to declare impeachment inquiry to force the Democrat President turn over all requested documents? That's how I'm reading it.
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:59 AM
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Pretty much.

All mentions of impeachment in the Constitution:
Article. II.
Section. 1.
The House of Representatives . . .
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The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section 3.
The Senate of the United States . . .
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The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Article II.

Section 1.
The executive power . . .
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Section 2.
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The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
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Section 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Article III.

Section 1

The judicial Power of the United States . . .
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Section 2.
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority
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The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; * * *


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Old 12-05-2019, 02:55 PM
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first off, if it is the President that is being impeached, he or she must have done something against the Constitution. the house cannot just declare to impeach a President. in Trumps case its him having held the money from Ukraine and asking the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. also Trump is abusing the power of the office by telling people not to testify. we will just have to wait and see what happens.
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Slim View Post
first off, if it is the President that is being impeached, he or she must have done something against the Constitution. the house cannot just declare to impeach a President. in Trumps case its him having held the money from Ukraine and asking the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. also Trump is abusing the power of the office by telling people not to testify. we will just have to wait and see what happens.
You obviously don't know the fact or what you're talking about.

First it's the President's job to ensure there is no corruption in the countries we give aid to and no corruption by current and former government officials. Specifically in the call, Trump says Barr will be reaching out. That's because there is a current on going investigation into 2016 corruption. Also, everyone of the so called fact witnesses the Dems called in all stated Ukraine had a history of corruption. By law, Trump has to ensure our money isn't going to corruption. Btw, we also have FBI offices all around the world to work with foreign governments to do investigations on Americans.

Next, just because Congress demands, the President is under no obligation to jump. The Executive Branch is coequal to the Legislative Branch. Congress is required to seek relief from the courts to make the decision on who has to do what. You need to ask Congress why they have dropped their challenge .

Last, if you haven't been paying attention, this has all been political. As Professor Turley said yesterday, if the Democrats go ahead and impeach the President now, they are the ones abusing their power. You know what? The American people see that as a fact which is why Trump's approval ratings are up. The Democrats have tanked in the battleground states.
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Slim View Post
first off, if it is the President that is being impeached, he or she must have done something against the Constitution. the house cannot just declare to impeach a President. in Trumps case its him having held the money from Ukraine and asking the Ukraine president to investigate the Bidens. also Trump is abusing the power of the office by telling people not to testify. we will just have to wait and see what happens.
"Must have done something against the Constitution?" What? I would be curious to learn what section of the Constitution prohibits withholding money from Ukraine. Please share.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:36 AM
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Like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Keep trying but reality is that it will never really fit.
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:39 AM
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The worst and most sickening outcome of this farce for me personally is the knowledge/concern that FROM NOW ON, after each new prez is seated in future elections, if the House is controlled by the opposing party, articles of impeachment will INSTANTLY be drawn up.

It will be one continuous spite-war after another..

Democrat Prez, Rep House = impeach
Republican Prez, Dem House = impeach
Repeat,
2-peat,,,,,
3-peat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Old 12-16-2019, 05:52 AM
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When the nuclear option was used for the scotus nomination it started a troubling trend that will surface again. Checks and balances are there for a reason. I think it was a mistake to pull that card. That action just built more walls around partisanship.
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Old 12-16-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander View Post
When the nuclear option was used for the scotus nomination it started a troubling trend that will surface again. Checks and balances are there for a reason. I think it was a mistake to pull that card. That action just built more walls around partisanship.
wait, are you forgetting history? It was the Democrats that triggered the nuclear option on the Judges not the GOP on Scotus. The Democrats, now living in the nightmare they created, did the little trick to just carve out Scotus in this option. However, the constitution is clear, only a majority is required to approve Judges. Now the Democrats who were warned repeatedly about doing this are seeing a conservative court appearance across the nation. Trump gets reelected in 2020 and it's over.
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