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Old 02-19-2017, 04:28 PM
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Are you for real? What in spaghetti monsters sake made you so pissed of.
Who's pissed? I just find it ironic that someone from a country that has never accomplished anything is so critical of the one nation that has kept them from being overrun. Why do you think Russia hasn't crossed your border? It sure isn't due to your military might, it is due to ours. When you sleep soundly tonite thinkb about the American troups that buy you your safety.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:57 PM
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Who's pissed? I just find it ironic that someone from a country that has never accomplished anything is so critical of the one nation that has kept them from being overrun. Why do you think Russia hasn't crossed your border? It sure isn't due to your military might, it is due to ours. When you sleep soundly tonite thinkb about the American troups that buy you your safety.
So you want USA to take credit for peace in Finland and generally in Europe (except Ukrain wich your country had even a deal to keep the peace). Do you also take a credit for the wars that are going on different parts of the world due to the great power your country is.
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Old 02-19-2017, 10:33 PM
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JB, believe it or not, probably half of the back and forth feuds/arguments, etc. can be ascribed to people writing one thing while meaning another. If you think about it, aside from posting here, most of express our opinions verbally with all the attendant visual ques, etc. that help ensure an accurate message. When we write something here that is stripped of all visual ques (except smiley faces), it really does not convey the same message or meaning, even if that was our intention.

This is not to accuse anybody of being illiterate, etc. but merely an acknowledgement that 99% of the time we've expressed an opinion has been verbally in face to face settings. So the vast majority of our experience and often expertise in communication is verbal and not in written form.

I had half hoped you would have taken the bait to name a better time in American history as it would have been simple to show that things were worse back then than now, pretty much like most other countries. If you think about it, most (but not all) of the world is better now than just about any time in the past.

I just read an article that said 2/3rds of the people who have ever lived past the age of 65 are currently alive in the world today. Translation is longevity is alive and well. The same article claimed our kids would see people living to 120 or 150 years old even. I don't know about that but can see more people living past 100.

Regardless of one's healthcare system and/or provider, it's obvious that something has improved with healthcare, disease prevention, etc. People like to whine about their stress levels but obviously there is less real stress or there would be a drop in longevity due to stress related ailments. In fact, it's a curious political development that many people are having to create some victimization aspect in their lives so they have something to complain about.
Quite right about that. There is also the fact that everybody read the texts differently. I mean you noticed the parts that you want to notice and make conclusion that suites your ideology. Here we have a saying, I don't know how it translates correctly -- Reading like devil to the bible-- . It is quite hard to try to keep objectivity and the more by the feeling you go the harder it is.

Lots of things are better now than it used to be. But not everything is better. Nowadays we also have problems we couldn't even imagine 10, 20 -- 50 years ago. I think few people are going to live longer in the future. But I have also seem some studies that says that in the western world our kids are the first generation for a long time that lowers the general life expectancy. Reasons like too low quality food and too much of it, not enough exercise etc.

But hey, pessimism isn't worth it, it's never going to happened anyway.
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Old 02-20-2017, 05:41 AM
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98% with Trump
7% with the turd in the punchbowl Clinton
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Old 02-20-2017, 06:22 AM
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Hey flags! What do you figure this JB Fin guy is smoking because if he doesn't think the US is the only reason that he's not living in Russia right now he's needs more schooling that we can ever give him, LOL?!!! If it wasn't for us, Russia would take his country inside a month if they wanted to!
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Old 02-20-2017, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by John Bear View Post
So you want USA to take credit for peace in Finland and generally in Europe

No but you have to admit that the threat of the USA rocking Moscow is what kept Russia at bay. It sure isn't your military.

(except Ukrain wich your country had even a deal to keep the peace).

USA, led by an inept coward screwed up here. We should have stepped in but the leadership at the time was weak. Wouldn't happen under the new administration. Sort of like learning from a mistake. Europeans were all tail wagging happy about OBozo being elected. Remember that? Those of us with common sense knew he would fail.

Do you also take a credit for the wars that are going on different parts of the world due to the great power your country is.

Have any of those wars been started by the USA? And how many ward do you think have been prevented by the USA staging troops and ships? And how many conflicts have been shut down before they become wars? Tell me just how many wars and conflicts has Finland prevented?
Still waiting for this Nordic socialist to tell me what his nation has ever accomplished. Note that he has offered nothing. All he can do is cry and whine about the USA but he cannot or will not try to tell us why his little enclave is even relevant on the international scale. Think about it folks, what do you have in your house or business that says "Made in Finland?" What products do you see that say that? When did you hear of any exports from them?

Finland, like many European nations is little more than a tick living off other nations. They are a joke. I live in Texas and if the economy of Texas was compared to the world it would be the 12th largest economy. Want to guess where Finland falls? It is number 43. Let that sink in. That's how weak Finland is and this guy wants to complain about the USA.
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by flags View Post
Still waiting for this Nordic socialist to tell me what his nation has ever accomplished. Note that he has offered nothing. All he can do is cry and whine about the USA but he cannot or will not try to tell us why his little enclave is even relevant on the international scale. Think about it folks, what do you have in your house or business that says "Made in Finland?" What products do you see that say that? When did you hear of any exports from them?


Finland, like many European nations is little more than a tick living off other nations. They are a joke. I live in Texas and if the economy of Texas was compared to the world it would be the 12th largest economy. Want to guess where Finland falls? It is number 43. Let that sink in. That's how weak Finland is and this guy wants to complain about the USA.
How long time period you would like me to admin that the only reason Russia haven't invade us is USA. And bashing Finnish military like that is so lame. Soviet union tried to occupy Finland twice in the WW2. First time we didn't get much help from anybody and didn't get occupied. (105 days of hell). Second time Soviet union got help from USA so we got some help from Germany. Didn't get occupied. Third time after peace with Soviet union we still had to fight war against Germany because they just didn't want to leave. So actually in WW2 we fought war against all the big ones Soviet union, USA and Germany. Still never got occupied. So I thank USA for those tons and tons of military help to soviet union. With out We might have bigger Finland now.

And the issue how many wars and other bad thing USA have prevented. I don't know but interestingly neither do you. Nobody does.

To comment what we have accomplished I don't see any point to that. I could guess your reply. What ever I told you it wouldn't be enough so no point. It would just mean some pissing contest and those are just so childish. If you are really interested just type "Finland" to google it is not that difficult.
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:18 AM
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Pretty hard to comment on negative accomplishments. If you really believe your country would still exist if the US had not pulled Europe's chestnuts out of the fire in both WWI and WWII you are simply not telling yourself the truth. Perhaps when you introduce yourself to strangers the next time, you will not start by insulting the country that is home to the people you are communicating to! Perhaps you got the idea that Americans do not love their country from watching clips of the news from our main stream media showing the leftist knuckleheads and miscreants throwing hissy fits in the streets and marching and generally making fools of themselves after our recent election. Here is a real news flash, unsullied by the media's spin machine, they are not the typical, hard working, tax paying, grateful to be living in America and happy we now have a President who does not run around the world apologizing for America American people. They are a bunch malcontent fools who imagine themselves to be relevant and now that they found out they are not they are acting like petulant children who didn't get a second cookie after dinner. It would be a great mistake to believe they are representative of America.

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Old 02-20-2017, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldtimr View Post
Pretty hard to comment on negative accomplishments. If you really believe your country would still exist if the US had not pulled Europe's chestnuts out of the fire in both WWI and WWII you are simply not telling yourself the truth. Perhaps when you introduce yourself to strangers the next time, you will not start by insulting the country that is home to the people you are communicating to!
Keep telling yourself that It worked fine for soviet union to write history like they liked it. Truth is strange thing. It can be alternate so many different form but still there is only one in this universe. I look like, maybe because of internet, truth has experienced inflation but still it is more valuable now than long time before. Or maybe internet has just given the world a highway for all kind of strange sh*t. But still. Keeping open mind, reading a lot and doubt, contested and rationalize everything and Truth will eventually win. I hope.
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:06 AM
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The truth already has won on the subject of who saved Europe from the German incursion, twice! I learned it long before the internet, I learned it from books, I learned it by looking at national cemeteries where our military dead are buried and from seeing all the white crosses in France where our men died saving Europe and I learned it in school, back when they were not teaching revised history to go with the socialist movement in our schools. I also learned that first impressions are pretty much what people will remember so perhaps the next time you attempt to initiate a conversation, you will do so without insulting those you are trying to converse with. My involvement with this thread is over since it will serve no purpose.
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