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Old 08-19-2015, 11:23 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...1-percent.html

By Wayne Allyn Root Published March 02, 2012 FoxNews.com
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"How did America become broke and insolvent? How did we build up an unimaginable $115 trillion in debt and unfunded liabilities? How did we allow the American Dream to become a nightmare?

All we need do is look at the primary demand the Eurozone and IMF are placing on hopelessly bankrupt Greece to get their new $170 Billion bailout -- Greece has agreed to cut 150,000 government employees. Even Cuba's leader Raul Castro recognizes government employees are at the root of economic destruction, as he is cutting over 2 million of them to save Cuba from bankruptcy.

The truth is that government employees are the true 1%. We have far too many of them (21 million), many of them are paid too much, and their union demands are straining taxpayers to the breaking point.

They have become a privileged class that expects to be treated superior to the taxpayers -- the same folks who pay their salaries and pensions. But it is their obscene pensions that are the big problem moving forward for America.

How would you like to retire with $6 million? $8 million? $10 million? All you have to do is become a government employee to hit the jackpot.

You donít believe me? Do the math.

I recently talked with a retired New York City toll taker. His salary averaged about $70,000 per year over 20 years. But in his last few years he worked loads of overtime and added in accumulated sick days to get his salary in those final years up to $150,000.

His pension is based on his final years' salary. This is a common pension-padding ploy.

He bragged that he will now get a taxpayer funded pension of $120,000 a year for the rest of his life. Heís only 50 years old.

The average 50-year old male has a life expectancy of almost 80. With automatic cost of living increases, thatís a bill to taxpayers of $5 million for the next 30 years --for not working. THREE TIMES WHAT HE EARNED WHILE WORKING.

And, of course, weíre also paying his medical bills.

No country, no budget, and no taxpayers anywhere in the world can afford this. Ask Greece.

But here's a frightening question- what if he lives to 90? Or 100? His pension could rise to $8 million or higher.

Multiply this times 21 million government employees (on the federal, state and local level) and you now get a sense of what is bankrupting America.

Are these stories the exception, rather than the rule? Over 77,000 federal government employees earned more than the governor of their state.

On the federal level, it was just reported by USA Today that the average federal civil servant compensation is $123,049 per year.

Thatís more than double what private sector workers earn (average of $61,051). Since 2000, federal government employee compensation has grown by 36.9% versus 8.8% for private sector employees.

In Las Vegas (Clark County) the average firefighter earns $199,678 per year.

When he retires at age 45 or 50, we owe his pension based on that obscene salary. But hereís the clincher --when he finally dies, the taxpayer has to continue paying the pension to his spouse. Add up the damage to the economy. It is catastrophic. Talk about a 1 per center -- a single firefighter could retire with $8 to $10 million for not working for the rest of his life.

This is madness.

Now it's true that policemen and firefighters are heroes. But they make up a small portion of government employees.

Recent studies prove the average janitor that works for government makes over $600,000 more in his career than a private sector janitor. Are janitors heroes too?

Again, this is madness.

Three stories on the same day in this past Sunday's Las Vegas newspapers sum up this national outrage.

Letís start with the Las Vegas teachers union. It was reported that more than a third of the unionís entire $4.1 million annual budget went to pay just nine union leaders.

The Teachers Union Executive Director received $632,546, while the CEO of the union-created Teachers Health Trust was paid $546,133.

So next time you hear educators scream that we must spend more money on education, because ďitís for the kids,Ē youíll know the truth. Itís for the unions.

Itís always been for the unions.

Bernie Madoff has nothing on the government employee union scam.

Article number two in Sundayís Las Vegas Review Journal was about those highly paid Las Vegas firefighters.

It turns out they werenít satisfied with making almost $200,000 per year. They also abused sick leave, rigged work schedules to pump up their pensions, and appear to have engaged in widespread disability fraud.

About half of all Clark County firefighters retired with work-related injuries in recent years- garnering bonus payments averaging $320,000 apiece. Thatís in addition to their obscene pensions for life.

Is this also "for the kids?"

Article number three in Sundayís paper was about a now retired Las Vegas homicide detective and possible police brutality. It had nothing to do with pensions. But interestingly, the retired homicide detective they quote in the story is 47 years old.

Heís 47 and already retired?

Want to bet that you and I are on the hook for $5 to $10 million in pension and health benefits from now until the day he dies- for not working. Is this also "for the kids?"

I'll say it one more time... this is madness.

These aren't CEO types. These are average government employees retiring with the equivalent of $5 to $10 million. These are the true 1% privileged class that are bankrupting our country and destroying the once great U.S. economy.

Something is very wrong here.

No one has a right to complain about the high incomes of business owners in the private sector (the 1%). We rarely have pensions and our compensation doesnít cost taxpayers a dime. We risk our own money to start our businesses and often work 16 hour days, weekends and holidays.

Yet for all that risk and hard work, do you know any small business owners who retire with $5 to $10 million? They are few and far between. But thatís exactly what a private sector employee would need in the bank on the day of his or her retirement to match the $100,000 per year pensions (plus health care benefits and cost of living increases) of government employees paid out over 30 to 50 years.

Keep in mind that government employees never risk a dollar of their own money. They have lifetime job security. And they rarely work beyond 9 to 5, let alone weekends or holidays.

Yet government employees are paid millions by taxpayers to retire early, often on pensions fattened by gaming the corrupt system.

They are the true 1%.

This is a national disgrace that is bankrupting America. The gall of this scam would make Bernie Madoff blush.

But hey..."It's for the kids!"

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee. He now serves as Chairman of the Libertarian National Congressional Committee. He is the best-selling author of "The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gold & Tax Cuts." His web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com.

Wayne Allyn Root is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative national media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee, now back to the GOP. Wayne's latest book is "The Murder of the Middle Class" (Regenery 2014). For more, visit his website: www.ROOTforAmerica.com. Follow him on [email protected]"
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:45 PM
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This claim has been made many times before. There's some trickery done with the math to arrive at the figures given for federal employees. Get a mental picture of what a retired "1% er" lives like, and then go visit 3-4 real, retired federal employees...their reality will be much, much less extravagant than your mental picture.

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Old 08-20-2015, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeA View Post
This claim has been made many times before. There's some trickery done with the math to arrive at the figures given for federal employees. Get a mental picture of what a retired "1% er" lives like, and then go visit 3-4 real, retired federal employees...their reality will be much, much less extravagant than your mental picture.
I wouldn't listen to much of anything BB22 puts out and the figures he just posted to start this thread are pure bunk. As a Civil Service employee for the state of MI for 30+ years in one of the higher wage brackets during the last 1/3 of my career I can tell you I'm not even close to getting what he stated and if it wasn't for a social security check along with that of my wife I would probably still have to work.
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I am really surprised about this thread. A liberal like BigBuck22 is promoting union busting. Have you been hacked?
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 View Post
I wouldn't listen to much of anything BB22 puts out and the figures he just posted to start this thread are pure bunk. As a Civil Service employee for the state of MI for 30+ years in one of the higher wage brackets during the last 1/3 of my career I can tell you I'm not even close to getting what he stated and if it wasn't for a social security check along with that of my wife I would probably still have to work.
Lots of BS in that "analysis". I retired after thirty-two years of Federal service, with retirement pay of 54% of my salary at the time of retirement. Yes, I paid into the retirement system with a deduction from every pay check received during those thirty-two years. And yes, I was able to retain my health benefits after retirement - so long as I pay for them out of my retirement pay.

In addition, I can receive either my Federal retirement pay or Social Security, but not both. So all of the money I paid into SS before entering the Federal service is lost to me. Don't confuse the average government worker with the Washington elite (like Congress and their staffs).

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Old 08-20-2015, 08:03 PM
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What sucks is something like this probably does happen somewhere but I don't know exactly where and the article's author doesn't offer any evidence other than anecdotal information, much like hearsay or urban legend.

I don't know anything about New York (listed in the article) but am pretty familiar with retirement issues for government employees in CA and especially for cops. In most of the police contracts in Northern CA that I'm familiar with, a retiring cop's pension is based on their wage rate and any incentive pays, such as education, etc. Overtime is specifically prohibited from being used in calculating the highest year's wages and so are any sick time or vacation time payouts, any early retirement incentives, etc. This is how it should be.

I'm sure Top, Oldtimr and a few other retired public employees could expand on what it's really like in their particular states or areas.
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Old 08-21-2015, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 View Post
I wouldn't listen to much of anything BB22 puts out and the figures he just posted to start this thread are pure bunk. As a Civil Service employee for the state of MI for 30+ years in one of the higher wage brackets during the last 1/3 of my career I can tell you I'm not even close to getting what he stated and if it wasn't for a social security check along with that of my wife I would probably still have to work.
A government employee, there's a shock. If I could guess the lottery as easy as it is to guess who else here is the same I'd of won several times over by now.

There are plenty/millions I'd say of examples of abuse and inefficiency.

Look at Greece, the way the abuse and inefficiency continues (for a time) is to have enough people dependant upon the government to constancy vote for their own financial well being. After all, that is the primary function of every government employee, and the players know how to play that harp. I'd like to see the percentage of government employee's who have ever voted NO on a levy that affects their own bottom line.

The history of welfare is a tried and true form of buying votes going as far back as 200 BC, so is employing enough people. Both are a sure way to stuff a ballot box. Historians (almost every politician is one) knows this. Isn't it interesting that they are also in control of education.

Why do we have welfare and a whole culture of people employed by the government?
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Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post
What sucks is something like this probably does happen somewhere but I don't know exactly where and the article's author doesn't offer any evidence other than anecdotal information, much like hearsay or urban legend.

I don't know anything about New York (listed in the article) but am pretty familiar with retirement issues for government employees in CA and especially for cops. In most of the police contracts in Northern CA that I'm familiar with, a retiring cop's pension is based on their wage rate and any incentive pays, such as education, etc. Overtime is specifically prohibited from being used in calculating the highest year's wages and so are any sick time or vacation time payouts, any early retirement incentives, etc. This is how it should be.

I'm sure Top, Oldtimr and a few other retired public employees could expand on what it's really like in their particular states or areas.
I'm sure they could, but if you are so familiar with Ca. set the record straight for us folks in the Mid West. All we hear of Ca. is the total government control and waste, tell us it isn't so?

What you fail to realize is, like a welfare recipient, you are only given enough to ensure a vote and have sold your freedom for that small amount. The excess, the waste is funneled off to higher ups on the food chain whose vote carries a lot more weight

and you know this.

What are you and the others going to do now? Cut your own throats? Ain't going to happen and the higher ups know it.

You ain't free. Till the day you die, you will vote to keep the abuse and inefficiency going.
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Originally Posted by CalHunter View Post
What sucks is something like this probably does happen somewhere but I don't know exactly where and the article's author doesn't offer any evidence other than anecdotal information, much like hearsay or urban legend.

I don't know anything about New York (listed in the article) but am pretty familiar with retirement issues for government employees in CA and especially for cops. In most of the police contracts in Northern CA that I'm familiar with, a retiring cop's pension is based on their wage rate and any incentive pays, such as education, etc. Overtime is specifically prohibited from being used in calculating the highest year's wages and so are any sick time or vacation time payouts, any early retirement incentives, etc. This is how it should be.

I'm sure Top, Oldtimr and a few other retired public employees could expand on what it's really like in their particular states or areas.
Here in VT things are changing. In the past overtime was allowed to work towards retirement. State employees would tend to work unlimited OT in the last 3 or 5 years to bolster their retirement pay. Several incidences of time sheet fraud were uncovered including top echelon state police employees. These employees were brought up on charges through the criminal justice system. I believe there are now restrictions on what OT will do for a pension.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:09 AM
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Just more of BB22's googling to see what he can find and post to appear like he is a bastion of knowledge. Of course there is some kind of abuse in all aspects of state and federal employment, just like everything else, connivers will connive. I worked for the state, my work week for the 1st thirteen years was never under 50 hours and I often worked 12 or more hours a day and sometimes 24 hours and often worked 7 days a week for 13 years. We got no overtime, period. Then I got promoted to management and management got no overtime even after the federal court ruled in the Garcia case that if full time employees worked overtime they had to be paid for it, except of course salaried employees which management is. That abuse knife cuts in both directions
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