Crossbows - who wants them gone?
 

Poll:

Who would like to see crossbows make thier way - as the dodo in Ontario?

For regular, non-physically challenged use.

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DL2 now why would you want to exclude a hunting tool from a hunter. The crossbow is nothing more than just another hunting tool. The more hunters that we can get out enjoying our woods the better it is for all envolved.

To eliminate the crossbows to just the physically challanged is a discriminating act for which the US governments have also just found out. I could give you all the data (from the disability act) but maybe it be better for you to look it up and learn.

The disabled do not want to be singled out for use of special tools, they just want the ability to enjoy the past time like all do. On top of that, who would pay for the administration cost to make sure only the disabled are using the crossbow. If you say the disabled, then unless you charge all hunters the same fees then you would be discriminating against a person because of a disability (making him/her pay a fee because of a disability that able bodied hunters do not have to pay).

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Grumpy, who says I want them excluded?

There is talk around town that some want everything with any type of trigger release excluded from " primitive" seasons.

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DL2; you use what firearm/bow you wish to hunt with and I' ll use mine. If you want more challenge use a long bow with no mechanical release. Make your own arrows if you want. Using a crossbow has given me many happy days in the field. Ask me how many times I didn' t pull the trigger because I was using a bow not whether a crossbow should be banned.

So the short answer to your question is: no.

Dan O.

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Boy did I know that was coming, as soon as I read the subject. Now the meat of the question is when should technology exclude equipement for the primitive arms seasons? Like PA not allowing modern in-line muzzleloaders or other states that don`t allow scopes on muzzleloaders. I think that what really should be done instead of excluding equipement, I think making every hunter qualify with his weapon, be that a bow or crossbow or even rifle before being aloud to purchase a big game license. I`m afraid the results would scare alot of hunters as alot would be hard pressed to hit a pie plate at 50 yards with a rifle and 25 yards with a bow.

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[:o] DL2 is trying to start a riot.....I use a crossbow & will not lower myself to your level..[:@]...a crossbow is just another LEGAL hunting implement & if you really want to get your a$$ kicked on this question..;)..go to the Excalibur website at www.excaliburcrossbow.com & then you' ll get blasted big time...[>:]..geeeeeeeesssss the nerve of some people!!!!!!!!!!! [:-] Brampton Mike (A proud gun & crossbow hunter) [8D]

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At the present moment I am not a XBOW hunter BUT I have nothing against them I just choose to use a compound for the time being! There will be a day (I Know)
My son shoots a Exocet. We felt that the XBOW was needed at the time because he was going on his first Moose Hunting trip with me last fall and wasn' t Physically capable of holding the proper poundage back.
Now he shoots this Xbow with confidence and accuracy AND THAT' S WHAT IT' S ALL ABOUT RIGHT!
AL

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The only thing that bugs me is archery moose tags, yes their easier to get and yes alot are given out to people who have no idea how to use a bow or crossbow. These same people then go " bowhunting moose" and try to take rifle shots ie. shoulder and yes I`ve even heard a fella brag about trying a head shot[:' (]. I just wish there could be a requirement in the reg`s that makes you prove that you understand how a bow or crossbow works and the limitations of the weapon. By the way the guy who bragged about the headshot was pissed because the bull was the biggest he`d ever seen and it ran off with his bolt sticking out of it`s ear, his neibour killed the bull first day of rifle season with the bolt still in it`s head.

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Noughing at all wrong with a Crossbow, some use them and some don' t. I would sooner see a hunter use a crossbow if he/she don' t feel right or have trouble shooting a Compound. Don' t give the anti' s any more fire power...BT

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Good replies guys - especially the last few who didn' t jump the gun (no pun intended).

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In Manitoba you cannot hunt with a crossbow during archery season but it can be used during muzzleloader deer season or rifle season. I see no benefit in using a crossbow under these conditions but I’m not opposed in using a crossbow if so desired. Using a crossbow is more challenging no doubt but hunting with compound bow is the ultimate. I know some might say why don’t I like a good challenge using a crossbow, well I like using the best tool for the job that is permitted.ˇ;)¿

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I' ll put in my vote in favor of crossbows. There are many people out there who are not disabled in the " legal" sense but who have chronic shoulder injuries (such as rotator cuff tears) or old wrist injuries which make conventional bowhunting impossible. One quick slip on the ice could put anyone of us into this situation. I' d hate to get kicked out of the bowhunting fraternity because of it.
Besides, is anyone worried that crossbow hunters are going to shoot all the deer?

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i agree with turk man. i do not know about anywhere else but in quebec you must take a 8 hour class, pass a written test and a pratical test where you must shoot at 3d targets to prove competency to get a card which you need to buy a bow licence. but not with a rifle or crossbow. the result is the yahoo(a friend of mine) that pick up there 300mag or what have you, which have not been touched since the year before throw a shell in the chamber and take shots at 200 plus yards and be suprised when they miss or worse wound the animal and not recover it. the 300 mag may not be the problem, its the guy squeezing the trigger.

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Ya may find another place very soon , as Ontario has been tring to pass it here aswell. Another money goat, and beleive me watch the OFAH on this one....BT

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How does the OFAH get these money makers? They couldn' t get spring bear hunting but they seem to have a monopoly in other ways.

Ducks Unlimited seems to get the same treatment federally.

Dan O.

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As much as I bitch about the uneducated bowhunters, I hope that any course they bring in is not run by the OFAH.

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Ok I have a few questions.

Do we need a bowhunting course in Ontario or Canada?

If one is devised, who would you rather have oversee it' s implementation, the OFAH, or the MNR ?

Do you think non-residents need to complete this course, or prove a course was taken?

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now that you brought up the ofah dan o have you ever herd of give a little get a little ......the ofah gave the spring bear hunt up and got the turkey course and even the huter education courses .... keeping all the Xmnr people in part time jobs..... ps dont get me started on the ofah i have taken flack from other web sites for doing so

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bgunner; the OFAH has done some good, but they appear to monopolize the ear of the government except when it counts on major issues.

From your points I see where John Q. Public gave but never where he received.

Dan O.