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skeeter 7MM 12-02-2006 02:21 PM

Question bow guys? HELP
 
Hey guysI shoot a martin Cougar Mag, so this is not for me but I am kinda out of the loop interms of bows. We had a discussion last night (we being the core of our elk hunting crew) about going in bow season vs rifle. One reason being the amount of cows. The cow only draw is an option but not the same as the potential for the call and bull is their with archery vs a cow only tag. Not to mention the chase aspect, finding groups of elk in late october would not be that tough and going in December(late season) would almost seem unfair of course this year with all the snow iot mighbt be a beach getting around. So I am saying BOW fellas, though the problem is the others all have older bows and really low self esteem about using them on anything much less elk.

So I come to you to ask what bows should I suggest to the fellas??? I would like forgiving, easy to shoot, good quality options of both moderate priced to top end?One is thinking switchback or nothing so he might be set. The others are pretty much in the stone age with regards to such and not sure they'll want to fork out this type of cointo begin with. Oh yeah one of the stone age fellas is a south paw as well so i am sure that will hamper his options but fire away.

Any thoughts would be great. Thanks

(I know post it in the bow forum would be better but I'll try the crew here first)

Hiawatha 12-02-2006 03:46 PM

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My advice is to go to Biggar and shoot every bow possible. Go in with an open mind and try them all out then make the decision which one do i shoot the best for the amount of money i want to spend. The boys there deal mathews, bowtech, martin, alpine as well as their own line of APA including the fastest bow on the market the Black Mamba. I would tell your buddies to call the shop in Biggar, lettem know when your coming down and car pool over. You could also check #1 archery in regina i hear they are good also but i deal strictly with the biggar boys. My bow is actually a little on the ancient side as well, got it second hand. I have never gone into a shop and shot other bows but if i was to buy new which i will in 5 years or so this is how i will do it. You don't need a top of the line bow to hunt with but CONFIDENCE is evrything. If the boys are lacking in their beliefs on the equipment sendem to buy new. Might as well keep their old bows as backups because not too many people want an outdated bow. they are just about as bad as computers i find. Just from reading the thread in the bow forum "I shot them all last night" the mathews switchbackxt and bowtech alliegence are amoung the top but bowtech is coming out with a few newbies for 07. But that is only one mans shooting opinon, different spokes for different folks. I personally would like to have a rip at that balck mamba, i have never shot one and glad i never did while i was at the shop this summer cause i prolly woulda bought it lol rips at 345ftps woooweeeee shut my mouth, slap your grandma. Oh if ya go there givem ol hia's name, might swing me a deal next time lol [8D]

thanxs jeff got me all horny for archery elk again. [:@]

sprocket99 12-02-2006 05:25 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Skeeter......I have shot a few bows....one that feels the best for me ( ME) only my hunting partners do not like it....but I shoot a Browning BrigerII BR3A its a personal preference that i have learnt to shoot well with..however...the new bows out there kick the craaaaaap outta this one
Sprocky

skeeter 7MM 12-02-2006 05:36 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Thanks fellas.

Hia they will only be buying from AL ifI have anything to say about it, he's been my guy since he was doing it in his house in biggar;)! Though I'll make sure they mention the fella from chelan.

Hiawatha 12-02-2006 06:48 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
skeeter another thing is to if the boys get a good bow that they shoot well and get a bit of success with they will use it more and more for things other than elk. I got mine for strictly elk but have killed a muley around stoon, wt buck, chased moose , a few grouse etc. It seems to snowball the more success you have. That may help convince a few of them to cut open the matress and make the purchase.

TerryM 12-02-2006 08:29 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Skeeter,
Careful about the archery thing it's addictive. Top end bows would include:
Bowtech Allegiance
Mathews Switchback
Hoyt Vectrix
APA
These are all topnotch bows so you should try and shoot them to get the best "fit" for you. They are all a little bit different but all top of the heap really. Seeing as you live out west I would definitely try the APA bows, the specs are good unfortunately they are hard to find out east.
As for arrows and accessories pop over to the bowhunting section here and any and all questions will be answered quickly. I think you will be impressed when you try the new generation of bows and your buddies will likely feel more confident with the new stuff.

Windwalker7 12-02-2006 10:16 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Take a look at the Diamond line up.

JD IN ALBERTA 12-12-2006 09:53 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Skeeter...buying a bow is worse than getting a gun these days. The choices are endless...as everyone says, try as many as possible (see which scope is best:D) One thing to keep in mind, I got mine on-line about 5 yrs ago, sight unseen. Best purchase I ever made. The new bows (mine is outdated now probably) now are 10x better than anything old. They are all decent no matter what brand. Just break it down by cost first, that will eliminate alot! Then style & look, lastly feel & availability. There are some places online & e-bay that have some smokin deals that canadian stores can't touch. I paid $300 for my Hoyt (5 yrs back) for an entire pkg. Bow, 6 carbon arrows, sites, rest, etc. the store here had it for $999 (bow only). I have been a happy camper ever since. Good luck bud, I'm a Hoyt fan but have seen some great new bows out there.

mustad 12-12-2006 11:02 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
I would add Ben Pearson bows to Terry's list.

Good luck.

agaucher 12-12-2006 11:03 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Although I only tried 4 bows, I settled on the Hoyt Trykon XL.

I presume from pictures you are as big as me (6'1'', 165lbs) and could handle the weight of the bow. I shoot it at 70lbs draw, and its a very smooth and fluent shot. With practice (I shouldbe emphasizing that point to myself, not to you!) it is easily deadly out around 50yrds.

biggest drawback on this bow is its weight - I think its about 1lb heavier than its competition.

Phil from Maine 12-12-2006 11:17 AM

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I use the Bear/Jennings models and have been very happy with my success. I also use the 2 blade broadhead in the heavey weight, my range is not as good as others but the damage is extremely effective. Good Luck!

skeeter 7MM 12-12-2006 02:23 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Thanks fellas. The inquiry isn't for me, but rather some of the elk hunting crew. I am satisfied with my bow setup just feltI was a little out of the loop to be giving the fellas advice to what is available today!Like electronics good todayand gone tomorrow.

AG, have a few pounds on yeah bud but thanks for being polite;)!

SwampTHING 12-19-2006 03:00 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Is an X-bow considerred a bow in the provinces you hunt?

Ontario it is, and Ill bet 50% of the guys are using them during deer and moose archery seasons and having lots of success with them.

bowkill144 12-19-2006 10:01 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Hi
I would check to see if you have a dealer near you that sells Forge Bows they are very forgiving, have littlehand shock, great customer support and veryeasy on the wallet compared to most of that quality. They are a very accurate and durable hunting bow.


skeeter 7MM 12-19-2006 12:06 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 

ORIGINAL: SwampTHING

Is an X-bow considerred a bow in the provinces you hunt?

Ontario it is, and Ill bet 50% of the guys are using them during deer and moose archery seasons and having lots of success with them.
SwampTHING, here a x-bow can not be used in archery season, just ML and Rifle.

youngfart 12-20-2006 05:24 PM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
Skeeter
All the advice is good my friend, I'm buying the new Guardian as soon as it get's to Canada by Bowtech ,supposedly takes all the shock out of shooting and also is still fast as in 335fps. I shoot a Bowtech Patriot right nowand love it. I've shot the Hoyt Razor and you can't go wrong their either, wieght is a factor here too. It's almost a pound heavier than the Mathews Switchback and Bowtech models. Get a night out and do a shoot atthe local lanes and get the guys to shoot the different bow'savailable and allow them to make the decision on which model to purchase. Mathews has been here forever and has been a leader in bows since their inception,so you can't go wrong with one of their products.
Bowtech Guardian : $ 799.00
Mathews Switchback:$ 899.00
Hoyt Razor : $ 779.00
Prices are all barebone bows
Good luck with your freind's Skeeter,remember their all we'll have ,enjoy them while where here,lifes too short. Good luck and God Bless.
Rocky:eek:

skeeter 7MM 12-21-2006 09:54 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
YF thanks for the info and prices.

Nicholal 12-23-2006 12:23 AM

RE: Question bow guys? HELP
 
I think find a bow that fits and feels good in your hands then worry about the price.....alot of people get hooked on the name thing. I've shot all the bows in 2005 when i bought mine and believe it or not I bought a lower end bow. Had all the top end stuff on it just the riser was cast instead of alunium (sp)........also look and year old modles that are not current modles.

Bottom line is a $200 bow will make a bull just as dead as a $1200 one. If you put the arrow in the right spot. Might make a bit more noise or have a bit more hand shock. But for 1st time archers I dont think spending money on a top end bow is practical??

my 2 pennies

AL


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