bucksnortinted

is the bushnell elite 4200, a better scope than the burris FFII's I was also told that the one in. tube will only let in a maximum light of 44mm. I was told that I should by a 30mm,tube scope if I want a 50mm objective or I was told I would be wasting my money because the light transmission in the 1inch tube would be a maximum of 44mm.

700xcr

I don't know about the Buris Fullfield II's or the Bushnell Elites,but I know about the Burris Euro-Diamand. It has the 30mm tube. Mine is a 2.5x10x44mm with the Ballistic Plex retical. I have it mount on my Remington 700xcr in 270wsm.I am really happy with it. It give plenty of light and cyrstal clear.I have heard alot ofbad mouthingon the Fullfield II.

timbercruiser

4200 is the best.

bucksnortinted

timbercruiser,have you used the burris fullfield II's if so could you explain why the 4200 is better,I sure would appreciate it.............Ted.

stalkingbear

I think bushnell has unfair advantage because the elite is best in bushnell line while burris top of the line would be black diamond or at least sig series. Compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges.

bucksnortinted

stalkingbear,do they make a 30mm tube in the FFII's or do you have to buy the signature series to 30mm tube,one of my biggest qeustions was also on the light transmission,I wanted yo buy the FFII in the 3x9x50mm with a 1inch. tube,I was told the 50mm with one in. tube would only let in the light capacity of a 44mm with a 1in. tube I was told to get the full performance out of the 50mm I needed to get the 30mm tube but the price goes way higher to get the 30mm tube that was one of the qeustions of the 4200 being a better scope because it had the 30mm tube.

stalkingbear

Burris don't to my limited knowledge make a fullfield 2 in a 30mm maintube scope. Humans have a pupil that on average expands to around 5mm in low light and 7mm in total darkness so all you need is 5mm exit pupil-anything bigger isn't needed and is uneccecary. For almost all normal hunting situations a 1" tube is all you need. To figure out how what the exit pupil on a scope,divide power into lens size mm. As in 8x into 40mm will have a 5mm exit pupil. Exit pupil in a scope is how big the scope image is.

bucksnortinted

stalkingbear,I know that your a gun smith and know one has actually answered my one critical qeustion about the 1in. tube if I buy a 50mm objective is it a waste of money I was told that the 1in. tube would only let in a maximum of 44mm of light transmission is this true...........Ted.

stalkingbear

Bucksnort-I honestly don't know about light transmission with a 1" tube vs a 30mm tube. The person to ask would be bigcountry as he works in the industry and has forgotton more about the techinal side of scopes than I'll ever learn-same way I am on guns. I'm sorry I can't help ya more. I suggest you send bigcountry a pm and ask him.

timbercruiser

Go to this link and take time to read it. There are a lot of optics professionals on there. They own and use a lot of scopes, know how they work and why. Most compare the 4200 with the Conquest. No I don't have a Burris, although I do have a 4200. I have shot a Burris a few times.

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