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Hoyt46534 06-13-2003 10:09 PM

Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
Does anyone have an idea as to why Matthews is bashing Hoyt, so badly in there new add campaign? I personally shoot a hoyt and find the new Cam & 1/2 a dream to shoot. Hoyt never directly attacked Matthews in there ads. Are Matthews sales down so much, because of Hoyts new cam system that they went on the attack, like the big bully on the corner. I don' t care for this kind of negative advertising. I would like some input and your feelings on this matter.

ken rose 06-14-2003 01:23 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
They tried there ***** with Bowtech last year,but it did NOT work! Everyone has to decide for themselve' s on what brand of bow.arrow and any other equipment to shoot.These bashing canpains are a last resort of some kind,it really makes the companies look bad in my opinion.Its like the new Martin adds with the pretty girl,I don' t know about everyone else,but an add is NOT going to be my deciding factor on waht to buy or shoot.[:@]

BAYOUBENGALS 06-14-2003 03:20 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
Atleast the girl in the Martin ad is HOT!!! Mathews is straight bashing.

fox_on_the_run 07-03-2003 04:20 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
I could really careless about Mathews bashing of Hoyt. I don' t see any other companies bashing hoyt. So what gives Mathews the right to do that? I mean there is strong competition among companies to see who can ' make the best bow' . However, You don' t see golden eagle or jennings bashing other companies. I just think that Mathews is jealous because Hoyt just might have created the best cam system to date. Mathews have their popularity and Hoyt has theirs. Same for all companies. This bashing might just send Mathews up to crash and burn. A persons cockyness and smart attitude can make others shut them up permanently. Same applies to Mathews.

Just cuz someone says a product is no good doesn' t mean they are right. It' s the old fashion preference game at its finest.

bigggz21 07-03-2003 10:30 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
Well, the thing that gives Matthews the right to do that is the Bill of Rights. Hoyt' s new cam system might shoot just fine and dandy, but they claim that it has the a straight line nock travel. Matthews says it doesn' t. The way I look at it is that if what Matthews is saying isn' t true, wouldn' t Hoyt be bringing a lawsuit against Matthews? Then again, maybe Hoyt knows they are false advertising, so they don' t dare. Either way, I' ll still sleep tonight.

Silent String 07-03-2003 12:26 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
:DThis realy sounds like who cares! The last time that any one knew it was not the bow that shoots, but the person behind the bow. May be that is why stick bow shooters seem to have more fun!! ;)

Kanga 07-03-2003 01:26 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
I have sat my bow down on the range plenty of times with an arrow nocked and the thing just refused to shoot;).
Its not the bow that wins it is the person behind the bow.
Shoot what ya want and have fun and let the next guy shoot what he wants and let him have his fun[:-]

dgirt 07-03-2003 01:49 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
yeah hoyt the best!! No it' s not Mathews IS!!! Noway man, Hoyt!! No Mathews!! I glad I don' t either one. Both have there positive points but there are a lot of other bows out there for less money. I would hate to thing it was a bow that made a shooter. BUT this whats going to make a better bow for all of use in the long run.;)

BowHunterChris 07-03-2003 05:20 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
I don' t think what Mathews did was wrong. Obviously they had reason to put an add in the magazines like that. They were proving a point. Mathews is also probably feeling a little less sales then normal since Hoyt and Bowtech. Any company is going to try and find something wrong with their competitors to try and gain some more sales. Mathews has always been the innovator of the hot selling items, and now they don' t have the innovation. But hey, Hoyt is also paying royalties for the Cam and a half because they aren' t the inventor of it.

Brandon Wisconsin 07-11-2003 01:42 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 

Matthews are really trying to give out a word here. They had 6 pages in Peterson' s Bowhunting if im not mistaken. PRICE is everything. Matthews has a good bow no doubt, but so deos Renegade Archery. They have the same speed, accuracy, but they don' t have all the hipe Matthews does. When people think of " Matthews the think of Big Money Bog Bow.
I talked to Matthews Pro Staff director and asked him if he would equip me with a bow for my next hunt which will be on the outdoorchannel and other videos. He told me straight out, " Why?" " We have enough guys like you out there promoting, whats a nother?" " We don' t have time to speak to outsiders"
Now that blew my mind! I think of Matthews as a (BIG SHOT) company too good for everyone else. Ill stick with the smaller comapnies you can Trust to manufacture a good bow with a genorous smile.

Rustywreck 07-11-2003 08:18 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
You can say what you want about Mathews generosity, but they win in my opinion. When our club held a tournament which had all indications of being a money losing event Mathews stepped up and gave us money to hang a sign. Other companies did as well, but they did it with just a couple days notice.
The benefit of that avertising was minimal at best and they knew it, yet they helped us out anyway.
When I think about the number of times each day they are asked for money for the same type of " advertising" as we asked I' m suprised they didn' t turn me down - I would have.
Because of their willingness to help us out and the way they have treated me as a customer they certainly have my support.

Brandon, did Renegade give you a bow for the show your doing? When will it be aired? Let me know, I' d like to make sure I watch a fellow Wisconsin boy on TV.

Red Hawk 07-13-2003 02:39 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
Well i thought i would reply to this because i just recently bought a Hoyt ZR which is my first bow (compound anyway) and i love it!:D I do agree with Bay, the girl in the Mathews ad is a hottie but hoyt will come out with an ad with an even hottier brunette or redhead [:-]:D:);) I can understand the bashing because of the sell wars but i personally dont like the matthews on the design but that' s just me.

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Red Hawk 07-13-2003 11:47 PM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
lol i wasnt paying much attention to the bow, just the girl but thanks anyway :D

Brian from GA 07-16-2003 08:20 AM

RE: Hoyt Bashing by Matthews
 
I usually never answer a thread like this but I do want to make one comment about one of the posts above.

If anyone has ever met the " real" Mathews Shooter Rep they know he is an upstanding guy. As far as being rude in public... I wasn' t there but I will bet one of two things 1. You were not speaking to the correct person or 2. He didn' t say those things.

The canned response from the real rep is " we accept resumes in the fall of the year. Send one in and we will let you know." And they will. My first attempt I got a nice little rejection notice asking me to resend next year. A friend of mine got the same thing.

If you don' t like Mathews don' t shoot them. If you don' t like their ads so be it. But if you are going to talk about the man (I didn' t mention his name on purpose) at least let us know who you spoke to.


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