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Old 03-27-2019, 12:40 PM
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I figure you guys might enjoy a true story from my past .(I'm 71 now)
that illustrates the point that not every spectacular shot made could be easily duplicated.

back in about 1966-1967 I had purchased a 7.5" barrel ruger super black hawk revolver in 44 mag caliber and a quick draw holster some what similar to these pictures.
I had been into hand loading and casting bullets and Id had a great deal of practice.
Id spent months practicing , for hours every day or so, until a consistent smooth fast gunfighter draw was something I could do.
,as a result, I could hit beer can size targets out at 50 yards more times than not with mild hand loads.
I used for target practice,back then,were a 240 grain cast bullet at about 900fps/
I thought I was rather good. Now the area we practiced shooting at , during this time frame was well out in the everglades at a place where two canals make a 90 degree intersection.
There was a 20 foot tall berm with a road on its crest on the side of each canal.
the berms had the roads that were built placed on top of them,were made from the fill pulled from the canals/
The canals allowed water to drain freely , from the areas they bordered.
The roads gave access to the areas, as they were 20 plus feet higher than the surrounding area. most of the canals were dug and roads built back in the early 1920s-1930s to drain some areas on the outside edge of the everglades,
So this meant we could place targets on the inside facing slope angle, on the slope of the 90 degree angle on one leg and drive down to the intersection and drive down the intersecting berms road so we can shoot diagonally across the intersection safely from the other road.
This making placing targets easy. As it just required a quick drive down the two connecting 90 degree legs.
we usually brought both rifles and hand guns on these trips and placed targets out at fairly long range for the rifles but for pistols we just threw targets out at fairly close range.


Now picture this, Im about 19-20 years old at the time and have spent a great deal of time practicing my fast draw with the revolver to the point I am reasonably fast, and accurate. When we get out to the area and place targets out at about 250 yards down one leg of the two berm slope angles/
WE then drive back to the intersection, turn and drive about 250 yards or so down the road to a point where we can clearly see the targets from the road we are on, this places the targets about 325-350 yards out from our shooting position, but allows us to safely shoot across the low swamp area into the raised berm road shoulder where we have placed targets
( which were mostly 1 lb tin coffee cans painted florescent orange).
As we get the truck parked after setting out the targets, a car pulls up, and an older guy who looked to be in his 50s gets out, and seeing we were about to shoot, he asked what were were using for targets.
I point out the dozens of orange cans on the far slope berm and hes amazed, as he can barely make out the brightly painted cans at that distance.
I assure him that thats really what were shooting at and ask if he might like to try a few shots with his scoped 270 win, well he says he has never shot past 100 yards, but yes he would like to try.
During the next 20 minutes I watch him shoot and try to give him some idea where hes hitting, because I doubt hes hit even once within 20 feet of the targets.
Eventually he turns to me and says, "no one could possibly shoot and hit targets that far out".

(now remember IM a wise ass 19- 20 year old at the time).
I say, " youve got to be kidding me, I could do as well as your doing with my pistol".
Well all my friends have also been watching this, transpire and hear me say that ......and start egging me on to prove it.
and yes about that time my few working teen age brain cells start to say "NOW WHAT DUMMY"

Now if you had ever gone out in the everglades back then you would have constantly seen these small black birds that flew very rapidly catching dragon flies and such just over the swamp cat tails and I had an idea!
I knew from past experience that if you shot at one they instantly folded their wings and dropped like a stone into the cat tails for protection/
I also knew this guy was very unlikely to know that and there were dozens of these birds constantly flying by, so I pointed out one that was flying about 100 yards out and pointed it out and said... see that bird! I then fast drew the ruger in my best johnny Ringo, or mat Dillon, gun fighter impersonation, and fired from the hip in a blur of movement.
knowing or at least expecting the bird I just shot at would instantly drop, and I could claim , damn only nicked him!
But to EVERYONE'S amazement (INCLUDING MY OWN) the bird exploded in a burst of feathers!
My friends were all laughing their butts off!
The guys face expression was priceless!
My friends had almost instantly figured out the intended deception/ scam,AND the amazing unexpected results, but the old guy just quickly packed up and left!
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:40 PM
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Good story!

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I'd been out of the military for six months still doing rehab, I was still walking with a heavy limp. A friend of the family got me a job at an outdoor shooting range.
He gave remedial training to L.A. County Deputy Sheriff trainees a few days a week. The first day of training he'd let them shoot some just to see how bad they were, these were the guys that had already failed to qualify. Got to picture, long hair, scraggly beard, blue jeans, engineer boots and a ragged t-shirt that said Harley Davidson across the front and back, sweeping brass into the grate by the firing line. He'd call me over and would say shoot those three targets a quickly as possible and he'd hand me a pistol. I'd put two in the black on the three targets, then he'd get real serious and say "if you don't learn how to shoot, some mangy SOB just like him is going to kill you". I always had to work hard at not busting out laughing watching them swallowing hard, with big bug eyes.
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That was a great story. The closest I could come was back in 73 as a teenager I was dealing Black Jack with my buddies, I flipped my hole card for 20 , they all turned over their cards and proceeded to believe they had one. Everyone had a winning hand except for one. Back then we played the dealer could hit anything, so I did and popped an ace for 21 no winners. They never showed me their cards again till I announced the point I was paying.. Good times for sure so long ago.
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Old 04-02-2019, 08:15 AM
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most of us learn by making mistakes few of us will admit making them,
back,when I first got into reloading like all new guys to any hobby I made a few mistakes
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I was about 17 at this time,
heres one you might get a grin from,
I got a good scare because I realized that the results might have been far different and it taught me to pay attention!
I got a call from a friend at about 11 pm on a Friday night telling me that he had just gotten access to a friends, private property, hunting area,
that we could hunt that weekend, the only catch it was a HANDGUN ONLY area and we needed to be on the site at 6 am,
I had zero ammo loaded for my 44 mag revolver, so I told the wife about the opportunity,
and ducked into the garage to load 20 cartridges (NEVER RELOAD WHEN 1/2 asleep)
I looked up my loads in a load manual and set my power scale, sized and lubed the cases, primed them, flared them,
double checked the powder I was using was correct, and loaded the cases, with powder, seated the bullets and went to bed,
at about 4am I get up, jump in the car and drive out to meet my friends
, by 7 am I'm in a tree stand overlooking a deer trail and at about 8 am theres a legal buck slowly working his way towards me,
when he got into about 35 yards I had the sights dead on his shoulder,
I slowly squeezed off a shot, the revolver gave a muted THUNKPOOFF sound and the bullet arced out and hit the buck and bounced off,
one very surprised buck bounded off, into the brush, and I sat there in startled amazement, THUNKPOOFF was not normal a CRACK/POW was NORMAL!!
IM reasonably sure velocities were under 200 fps because I had lots of un-burnt powder, H110 needs a certain pressure level to burn consistently.
, unlike BLUE DOT or UNIQUE powder which is better for low velocity loads (not that ID intended to build a LOW VELOCITY LOAD, ANYWAY)

(I was using a shorter barreled 6.5" #29 then,
but swapped to this when I purchased it in the 1980s and never looked back)

after inspecting the bore to be assured there was nothing stuck in the barrel I picked out a large tree trunk,
around about 40 yards away and tried a second shot.....same result..THUNKPOOFF sound and a bullet bouncing off the tree.
on returning home after the hunt I disassembled to remaining ammo, and weighed the powder, the load manual called for 20-21 grains of H110 powder,
Id screwed up and set the powder scale for 11 grains by mistake,
if I screwed up and set it for 31 grains the case would have over flowed,
and the mistake would have been more obvious with that particular powder,
but I realized that the mistake was major, because if ID set the scale for lets say 26 grains it might have been a HUGE problem,
or if ID used a different powder I could have caused serious problems, as I might have loaded a serious overcharge,
ever since I learned tootriple check both the POWER USED and THE CHARGE WEIGHT SEVERAL TIMES,
AND WITH AT LEAST TWO and HAVING THREE OR FOUR MANUALS CURRENT MANUALS FOR REFERENCE,
IS EVEN BETTER,, you NEED three minimum, manuals because theres occasionally mis- prints, or typos,
that you need to catch,as an example, if one manually were too suggest lets say 48 grains of IMR 4064 under a 250 grain bullet in a 358 win,
and both your other manuals top out at 44 grains you know theres a problem, that you should look into.

you can also check on-line now but back 30 plus years ago that was not an option,
but don,t trust ANY SINGLE REFERENCE SOURCE
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most of us learn by making mistakes few of us will admit making them,
back,when I first got into reloading like all new guys to any hobby I made a few mistakes
,
I was about 17 at this time,
heres one you might get a grin from,
I got a good scare because I realized that the results might have been far different and it taught me to pay attention!
I got a call from a friend at about 11 pm on a Friday night telling me that he had just gotten access to a friends, private property, hunting area,
that we could hunt that weekend, the only catch it was a HANDGUN ONLY area and we needed to be on the site at 6 am,
I had zero ammo loaded for my 44 mag revolver, so I told the wife about the opportunity,
and ducked into the garage to load 20 cartridges (NEVER RELOAD WHEN 1/2 asleep)
I looked up my loads in a load manual and set my power scale,

sized and lubed the cases, primed them, flared them,
double checked the powder I was using was correct, and loaded the cases, with powder, seated the bullets and went to bed,
at about 4am I get up, jump in the car and drive out to meet my friends

, by 7 am I'm in a tree stand overlooking a deer trail and at about 8 am theres a legal buck slowly working his way towards me,
when he got into about 35 yards I had the sights dead on his shoulder,
I slowly squeezed off a shot, the revolver gave a muted THUNKPOOFF sound and the bullet arced out and hit the buck and bounced off,
one very surprised buck bounded off, into the brush, and I sat there in startled amazement, THUNKPOOFF was not normal a CRACK/POW was NORMAL!!
IM reasonably sure velocities were under 200 fps because I had lots of un-burnt powder, H110 needs a certain pressure level to burn consistently.
, unlike BLUE DOT or UNIQUE powder which is better for low velocity loads (not that ID intended to build a LOW VELOCITY LOAD, ANYWAY)

(I was using a shorter barreled 6.5" S&W MOD #29 then,
but swapped to this when I purchased it in the 1980s and never looked back)

after inspecting the bore to be assured there was nothing stuck in the barrel I picked out a large tree trunk,
around about 40 yards away and tried a second shot.....same result..THUNKPOOFF sound and a bullet bouncing off the tree.
on returning home after the hunt I disassembled to remaining ammo, and weighed the powder, the load manual called for 20-21 grains of H110 powder,
Id screwed up and set the powder scale for 11 grains by mistake,
if I screwed up and set it for 31 grains the case would have over flowed,
and the mistake would have been more obvious with that particular powder,

but I realized that the mistake was major, because if ID set the scale for lets say 26 grains it might have been a HUGE problem,
or if ID used a different powder I could have caused serious problems, as I might have loaded a serious overcharge,
ever since I learned tootriple check both the POWER USED and THE CHARGE WEIGHT SEVERAL TIMES,
AND WITH AT LEAST TWO and HAVING THREE OR FOUR MANUALS CURRENT MANUALS FOR REFERENCE,
IS EVEN BETTER,, you NEED three minimum, manuals because theres occasionally mis- prints, or typos,
that you need to catch,as an example, if one manually were too suggest lets say 48 grains of IMR 4064 under a 250 grain bullet in a 358 win,
and both your other manuals top out at 44 grains you know theres a problem, that you should look into.

you can also check on-line now but back 30 plus years ago that was not an option,
but don,t trust ANY SINGLE REFERENCE SOURCE
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