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mossy33oak 04-28-2005 01:31 AM

PGC officers were in MD tonite
 
I was on the way to my sofball game tonite, and saw 4 vehicles parked along a back one lane road. They all had big 4' antenna's sticking out of the drivers door, and as I got closer I noticed they had PGC symbols on their doors. I thought this was odd concidering I was about 4 miles into MD. So 4 hours later I am returning home and they are all still parked there, well curiosity got the best of me and I stopped and asked what they were doing. A girl in one of the vehicles (who was very polite I might add) proceeded to tell me that they were there tracking some tagged BATS?????????? She said the bats that they tagged flew into MD and they were monitoring them. Wow, didnt realize some of the money you guys put out for hunting tags and fishing licenses go to tracking bats!!!! Anyone else find this a little humorous??? Imagine the cost of 4 fully equipped vehicles, (they had computer screens mounted on the dash of all the vehicles to track them) and at least 4 officers to sit along side a road for 4+ hours doing this.

cardeer 04-28-2005 02:48 AM

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Liars ,I bet. Think they could of come up with a better story then that. I have some ideas what they might of been doing,but I aint starting no rumors

T_in_PA3 04-28-2005 05:19 AM

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PGC is responsible for the mammels of Pennsylvania. They are much much more than just deer.
Species of Special Interest

Rumors start when you don't have a clue and you think you do.

Wirehair 04-28-2005 06:35 AM

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One year Maryland DNR spent $10,000 to count butterflys.

lost horn 04-28-2005 07:19 AM

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PGC is responsible for the mammels of Pennsylvania.
PGC must slash $3,000,000 by June 30.
If this story is true, I think their bat program should of been cut, not the pheasant program.

quiksilver 04-28-2005 12:04 PM

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Well, was she hot?

T_in_PA3 04-28-2005 12:28 PM

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I'll one up ya...

Responding to the dramatic rediscovery of the Ivory-billed woodpecker at the Cache River National Wildlife Refuge in Arkansas, Interior Secretary Gale Norton and Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns today announced a multi-year, multi-million-dollar partnership effort to aid the rare bird’s survival. The bird has been thought to be extinct in the United States for more than 60 years.

This is a rare second chance to preserve through cooperative conservation what was once thought lost forever, Norton said. “Decisive conservation action and continued progress through partnerships are now required. I will appoint the best talent in the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and local citizens to develop a Corridor of Hope Cooperative Conservation Plan to save the Ivory-billed woodpecker.

The Corridor of Hop refers to the Big Woods of Arkansas, an area about 120 miles long and up to 20 miles wide in eastern Arkansas where the Ivory-billed woodpecker has been sighted. The Interior Department, along with the Department of Agriculture, has proposed that more than $10 million in federal funds be committed to protect the bird. This amount would supplement $10 million already committed to research and habitat protection efforts by private sector groups and citizens, an amount expected to grow once news of the rediscovery spreads.

Federal funds will be used for research and monitoring, recovery planning and public education. In addition, the funds will be used to enhance law enforcement and conserve habitat through conservation easements, safe-harbor agreements and conservation reserves. "Finding a species once thought extinct is a rare and exciting event, and USDA is pleased to be a partner in the effort to protect Ivory-billed woodpeckers, Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns said. At the same time, we understand that habitat conservation can impact landowners. That's why we're going to reach out to work cooperatively with stakeholders so we can all share in the joy of this discovery."

The action by Secretary Norton and Secretary Johanns came in response to news from the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, The Nature Conservancy, and other members of the Big Woods Conservation Partnership that they had collected primary and secondary evidence of the bird’s existence in the Cache River National Wildlife Refuge. The primary evidence consists of video footage, while the secondary evidence consists of seven eye-witness sightings and audio evidence of the Ivory-billed woodpecker. In addition, recordings of the distinctive double rap of the bird are still under analysis. After conducting its own peer reviews of the evidence, the journal Science is now publishing these findings. Secretary Norton congratulated Dr. John Fitzpatrick, Director of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology and Scott Simon, Arkansas State Director of The Nature Conservancy, for the cooperative, diligent, year-long research of their teams.

Following credible reports of sightings of the bird, a multi-partner team led by Fitzpatrick and Simon, assisted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission and the Arkansas Natural Heritage Commission spent more than a year in the Big Woods of Arkansas searching for this rare bird. The evidence collected led scientists to conclude that the Ivory-billed woodpecker is now present in the Big Woods of Arkansas.

“Our next step to recover the bird must be as patient and thoughtful as the collection of evidence to confirm the existence of the bird, Norton said. As we learn more, we will adjust our cooperative management effort. The Ivory-billed woodpecker, the largest woodpecker in the United States, is the second largest in the world and had been one of six species of birds in North America thought to be extinct.

Prior to this recent rediscovery, there had been no confirmed sightings of the bird in more than 60 years. After consulting with Governor Mike Huckabee and other officials at the federal, state and local levels, the Interior Department will appoint members to a Corridor of Hope Cooperative Conservation team. Sam Hamilton, Regional Director for the Southeast Region of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, will lead the team. Secretary Norton also announced that the Department will appoint technical experts to assist the conservation team in writing a recovery plan. The team will include Dr. Jim Tate, Science Advisor to Secretary Norton and a noted ornithologist, and David Mehlman, Director of the Migratory Bird Program at The Nature Conservancy.

adams 04-28-2005 12:53 PM

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I'd be willing to bet these "bat tracking vehicals" would track virtually any animal you put a radio collar on. They may have been tracking bats last night and tonight they might be tracking bears from the same trucks.

I do find it odd that they were tracking them out of state though.

BTBowhunter 04-28-2005 01:20 PM

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So in other words the PGC has 4 Batmobiles and at least one Batwoman!;)

mossy33oak 04-28-2005 03:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: T_in_PA3

Rumors start when you don't have a clue and you think you do.
who the hell are you to make a comment like this????? I reported what I saw, I backed it up with data that I aquired from the individuals performing the task, and I posted it here........the fact of the matter is, your states game commision was in another state last night for over 4 hours tracking bats, is that what you thought the money you paid for your hunting license would be used for? How many licenses would it take to be sold to pay for something like that?

T_in_PA3 04-28-2005 04:14 PM

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Untangle your undies Mossy, it wasn't directed to you.

Yes, I realize that my license money goes for more than just deer matters. Some of us are educated in what the PGC is directed in doing.

lost horn 04-29-2005 07:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: T_in_PA3

Untangle your undies Mossy, it wasn't directed to you.

Yes, I realize that my license money goes for more than just deer matters. Some of us are educated in what the PGC is directed in doing.
Maybe I have been wrong all of these years but I thaught the PGC's job was to manage the land for game animals and if they manage it right all other animals get a piece of the pie. As for the bats, no their big boss the hunters IMO did not intend to see their money spent looking for bats in Pa. or Md. thats the DCNR job, they can get all the free money they need to do that job.

PABowhntr 04-29-2005 09:57 AM

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T_in_PA3,

Yeah, that is something that they "rediscovered" the Ivory Billed Woodpecker. It makes one wonder how many more animals may be saved because of the conservation efforts of sportsman/other agencies. Supposedly there was a piece on CBS about it last night.

DougMD 04-29-2005 11:57 AM

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I'd be ticked if hunters' dollars were spent tracking bats. Use of those funds should be restricted to game conservation.

T_in_PA3 04-29-2005 12:04 PM

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The Commission is responsible for managing all of Pennsylvania's wild birds and mammals. Wildlife management is conservation in its most recognizable form. It's the process used to manage game and other wildlife populations, and includes: monitoring wildlife populations; establishing laws and regulations; setting seasons and bag limits; making habitat improvements; providing outright protection; informing and educating the public; and assessing public expectations and satisfaction. Each offers varying benefits to wildlife and Pennsylvanians.

I can't find the legislatative directive at this time.

Rickmur 04-29-2005 05:22 PM

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Hey Frank, you don't moderate anymore? If you do you lost your icon.

White-tail-deer 05-02-2005 05:32 PM

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Are you sure they weren't tracking mountain lions???

rile1564 05-02-2005 07:04 PM

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I have to agree with T_in_PA3. I'm glad my money is going towards managing and care of all of PA's wildlife. I believe that if they only looked after "game" animals and neglected the other wildlife of PA, there would be a large impact on the "game" animals. After all the forests, as well as cities, have a balance of wildlife and one species effects the others. Plus I would like the PETA "animal lovers", and the like, to know that the hunters of PA care for all the wildlife and not just their "game". First and foremost hunters should be conservationists. If not then PETA, and the like, are right. We are just out to murder deer, or what ever game, and don't care about animals and the environment that we share with them. Some will argue that, that's what the DCNR is for. It's not their job. Since we all share the woods, and animals within, we are mostly responsible for the up keep. Here's something to think about. If hunting was banned in PA and there were no more money comming in from hunters, who would pay to track and maintain PA's wildlife. Not to mention that most of the land, game lands, would be bought by private landowners and who knows what would happen to PA's wildlife then.

rile1564 05-02-2005 07:29 PM

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Just to clear up what the PA DCNR is supposed to do, I looked it up on the PA DCNR website.

"What does DCNR do?

DCNR is charged with maintaining and preserving the 116 state parks; managing the 2.1 million acres of state forest land; providing information on the state's ecological and geologic resources; and establishing community conservation partnerships with grants and technical assistance to benefit rivers, trails, greenways, local parks and recreation, regional heritage parks, open space and natural areas."


No where does it say that it tracks, maintains, monitors or has any bureaus that have anything to do with animals in PA. Although I did see a warning about foriegn bugs that are increasing in PA and destroying plants and trees. As for this quote.


"As for the bats, no their big boss the hunters IMO did not intend to see their money spent looking for bats in Pa. or Md. thats the DCNR job, they can get all the free money they need to do that job."

The PA DCNR's budget has been reduced by 4 million dollars for the 2005 year.

As for the PGC being out of state. I'm glad. That's the purpose of tracking animals. Animals don't recognize state boundaries and to properly track them and know what they are doing (point of tracking) you have to follow them were ever they go.

T_in_PA3 05-03-2005 06:23 AM

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In informed reply. Good job rile.

Lefty26 05-03-2005 08:14 AM

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I think the really "fishy" part of this story was that Mossy was going to a softball game. I guess he was trying to imply he was an athelete or something, any of you that have seen Mossy know that isnt the case!!!!:D:D:D


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