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RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
my question to you is do you hunt private or public land. if you take a walk a day or two on public that doesnt mean you hunt public land.. i want to know what u hunt most of the time. now if you do have too many deer your way well that will change soon because you are less than an hour away from me and its spreading. the one thing you have in your area is there is a lot of private land so the deer dont get hunted as much. now for your P & Y statement yeah there are some very nice bucks out there but only a few since the deer pop. is so low. when you have so many hunters after one nice buck well i guess your right i would rather see some doe and a spike. but the thing is back in the day when i was seeing 100 deer i also saw some big bucks w/ those 100. now i know times change and i dont want to see 100 deer a day i would just like to see a few.
ORIGINAL: bowhunterlimerick this is rediculous, any body out there that says there are no deer in PA it is all in your head there are plenty of deer here, there are even more deer than there should be here, typical pennsylvania people on this forum for the most part would rather see 100 does and a spike per day than see 5 deer in a week and 2 of them be P&Y |
RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
I agree PA, it does depend on what type of land you hunt as well as where you hunt. Granted, there are some areas that just have a very low DD so those hunters are going to complain about not seeing any deer. However there are those as well that hunt heavily populated areas that would say the opposite. For example we hunt lycoming county and have heard from numerous camps that there are no deer left along pine creek but we took 4 buck all 8 points or better and 6 doe in two days last season just a mile from those same people who were complaining. Heck you could talk to two different people from my camp who hunted just a few hundred yards from each other and get different stories. I for one saw roughly 40 deer in those 2 days while my uncle saw none. He would argue there are no deer left and I would say there are more deer now than before and we were just yards apart.
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RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
ORIGINAL: bowhunterlimerick this is rediculous, any body out there that says there are no deer in PA it is all in your head there are plenty of deer here, there are even more deer than there should be here, typical pennsylvania people on this forum for the most part would rather see 100 does and a spike per day than see 5 deer in a week and 2 of them be P&Y  I don't think anyone is saying that there are no deer in PA. I think it is general disappointment that there are not the numbers we all have come to expect. I truly believe that there has to be some common ground on this issue. We all want to see a nice rack but harvesting a deer is more important to me than making book. I shoot in the freezer class. Perhaps we all (myself included) should stop being so sarcastic toward the other side of this issue and we should all start to try to come up with a commonground solution to present to the state. Just my 1/4 cent worth. |
RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
this is getting ridiculous. why keep beating a dead horse. you've beat it enough. you guys are just back to bickering again However, new members sign on here every day that haven't seen the dead horse beating ad nauseum. The methods of propaganda are to simply repeat your disinformation over and over with authority until it one day becomes accepted as the truth. I'm as tired as some of the rest of us with the constant bombardment of erroneous "facts and figures" but I will continue to correct the propaganda put out here for as long as it takes. |
RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
BTBowhunter, the thing is ddear's numbers make more sense than the PGC's numbers.
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RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
If ddears #s make any sense to you then go work for the I.R.S. I hear they are looking for a few good men.You can look out for dedducttttiionnnnnsssssssss oooooooverr payppmmennts &cossttt oovverrunnnnssss[:'(]
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RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
I said ddear #s make more sense than the PGC's #s any #s would make more sense than the #s they have been using for the past 20 yrs. No I will stay away from the I.R.S. They work too much like PGC.[8D]
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RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
I'm as tired as some of the rest of us with the constant bombardment of erroneous "facts and figures" but I will continue to correct the propaganda put out here for as long as it takes. |
RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
ddear, please tell me you didn't learn this in math class. You just can't add the percentages from each year together and say that an 8% decrease per year over 4 years reduced the herd by 32%. This isn't even in the same ball park considering you have to also take into consideration herd growth, mortality rates etc... here's an example just to prove a point. you have a deer herd of 100,000 and reduce it by 8% which leaves you with 92,000 deer. now if that population increases by just 10% due to fawn births it would put it at 101,200. Year two decrease of 8% would put it at 93,104 with a 10% birth rate putting it back at 102,414. Therefore after 4 years of an 8% decrease you population would be 104,887 deer. So even though it may help prove your point to just forget how math works in reality an 8% decrease when taking all the factors into consideration turns out to actually be a 4.8% increase. It's funny how numbers work when you know how to use them. By the way...an 8% decrease on a population over 4 years (without taking any other factors into consideration) would actually be a 28% decrease in case you wanted to know. |
RE: Pa. Deer #'s down! Duhhhhhhh!!!!
the pgc is retarded to get there deer count from them dumb report cards. Most all other states get off the a$$ ,and do it the right way. You know how many people dont send in them cards.I know people who dont get deer and send them in just to feel good about themselves.
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