RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

Archers have indeed not killed enough early doe. Some learned to get on board the hard way after seeing the early muzzy and youth/senior doe hunt put right in the middle of their season. Some still dont get it. It's a place that needs work. But remember, we have guys who claim to be archers right here who dont want any doe killed. A few years ago Alt proposed a two week earlier archery doe only season.
The commisioners shot it down due to heat from the unified crowd and jealousy from some rifle hunters.

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

I'm surprized the UBP didn't force it thru, guess the MAJORITY of hunters in Pa just didn't want a longer archery season,I mean don't they have a 6 wks already and more after Christmas???

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

One thing we bowhunters have learned is patience...
and make no mistake, It's a comin.

Th e two week extension took time, the 50 yard safety zone took time...

Yep, its a comin!:D:D:D

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

actually when faced with similar situation, the hunters of arkansas with AR/HR had thier archery season shortened...... and everyone had their bag limit dropped. That was about six years into it.

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

If I recall correctly 2G is kind of unique in that regard. What other WMU is 3 below goal or are you just exagerating to make your point?

I think you know who they are and I'm not going to single anyone out and risk steppin on the rules.

edit:
I just double checked. 2 G is the only WMU under goal

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

Makes for some damn tough hunting also. I hunt Lycoming Co. in 2G and its not fun to try to pattern deer for archery when your not seeing them. Even in the area I live and hunt with farm lands the herd is down. Food isnt the cause lots around good mast this past season. Habitat is there lots of wood patches and brushy areas. Not even sure it the harvest . I usually know roughly how many are taken in my neighborhood. So you tell me why its down.

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

Dont hunt there so I have no clue. It does kind of stand out though. why is 2G way down and all the rest of the WMU's are over goal?

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

BT you hit the nail on the head.You dont hunt here and many of those who dont or wont realize that things are totally differant than their area. Same for me I dont hunt the SW corner or other areas of the state. Even I am not sure about other areas of 2G. Wish I had time to explore some of the other places but dut to things just dont have it. So I really cant say why some areas have deer and others dont. Is it due to habitat or something else all together. No clue. Could be a factor of poor habitat and hunter harvest combined in some places. This is where further refining of the WMUS need to be addressed. Will we see it? I doubt it. All I see in the future at least for this year is more doe tags and more dmap tags. Hope I am wrong.

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

I've been hunting the area all my life.The number one reason there are few deer is because most of the land is public-overharvesting.The lack of acorns in some areas and last year's winter played a very small role in it.
The deer that didn't survive were some fawns.A double wammy from Alt you could say.He says to shoot the mature does which leaves fawns which can't survive the severe winters,kinda like killing two birds with one stone.Being on the ground and actually in those areas I'd say the DPSM is below the 12 they're estimating.

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.
 

ALL the better reason to not shoot does